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  1. Raul
  2. MOXF
  3. Thursday, 09 November 2017
Hi guys I'm wondering how could I retrieve 3 waveforms or samples from the classic Motif or from the Motif ES and import them into my new MOXF and also re-create some voices associated to these samples. I love the voice numbers #4 CP80 and #5 CP80&Ep (A04 and A05) on the classic Motif and I'd like my MOXF to sound the same or as close as possible.

If you check the data list file (PDF) of both units (Classic Motif and the MOXF) you'll notice that the most recent keyboard (MOXF) doesn't include the voice names nor the waveforms or samples. It seems like the CP80 samples from the classic Motif were replaced with some CP70 samples. Please check the attached pictures and the links below for a better understanding.

The classic Motif contains three samples named like this: CP80, CP80+ and CP80-, which are waveforms 23, 24 and 25 respectively. I don't have access to a classic Motif now but I own a Motif ES that contains the indicated samples and just the voice called CP80&Ep and another voice called HardCP80 that doesn't sound like patch #4 in the classic Motif.

In a summary:
1) How can I retreive the three samples named CP80 from my Motif ES and import them in my MOXF6? I think I'll need a Flash board
2) How can I get voice numbers 4 and 5 from a classic Motif and direct their waveforms to the imported CP80 samples if question one could be resolved?

**Classic MOTIF data list PDF
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/341311/Yamaha-Motif-6.html?page=2
**MOTIF ES data list PDF
http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset/file/?language=en&site=ae.yamaha.com&asset_id=7402
**MOXF data list PDF
http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset/file/?language=en&site=ae.yamaha.com&asset_id=60483

Thank you very much
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Bad Mister
Yamaha
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The original Motif (2001-2003) and the Motif ES (2003-2007) did feature the CP80 samples... as the Wave ROM of each Motif doubled, new version of some of the data was used. The original product 1978 was the CP70 (the 88 key version came about by popular demand due to customer interest - you know some folks simply have to have a "full 88";). Those extra keys were the toughest to keep in tune and while they made the instrument bigger and heavier, there certainly were enough folks who HAD TO HAVE 88!!!

The CP70 was the innovation! If you are looking for the exact samples from the Motif and Motif ES - I'm not sure they are available (but I can check)...

There was a Library that used the new CP samples (those in the Motif XS/XF and later) with new data... worth a listen if you are "into" the CP...

The ROM samples of the Motif and Motif ES are not really available anywhere that I am aware... however the definitive CP80 Library for the Motif XF (and therefore loadable by the MOXF is found here: Electric Grand by DCP
  1. more than a month ago
  2. MOXF
  3. # 1
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Bad Mister wrote:

The original Motif (2001-2003) and the Motif ES (2003-2007) did feature the CP80 samples... as the Wave ROM of each Motif doubled, new version of some of the data was used. The original product 1978 was the CP70 (the 88 key version came about by popular demand due to customer interest - you know some folks simply have to have a "full 88";). Those extra keys were the toughest to keep in tune and while they made the instrument bigger and heavier, there certainly were enough folks who HAD TO HAVE 88!!!

The CP70 was the innovation! If you are looking for the exact samples from the Motif and Motif ES - I'm not sure they are available (but I can check)...

There was a Library that used the new CP samples (those in the Motif XS/XF and later) with new data... worth a listen if you are "into" the CP...

The ROM samples of the Motif and Motif ES are not really available anywhere that I am aware... however the definitive CP80 Library for the Motif XF (and therefore loadable by the MOXF is found here: Electric Grand by DCP


Thank you Bad Mister for your reply!
I've been learning more about Voice Edit Mode and samples these days on the MOXF and MOTIF ES, I wouldn't go with the Electric Grand by DCP library, I think it is way more of what I expected; it would use a big portion of the Flash board, even though it sounds way more detailed, I'd love to keep it as close as the Classic Motif sounded. Perhaps I could record the samples as raw as possible from my MOTIF ES and re-program the voice parameters from my MOXF.

For example the voice called CP80&EP, uses four elements on the MOTIF ES, If I'm not wrong the first element is called Multipiano the second is CP80, the third and fourth are some DXsomenumber samples. If I recorded the sample I could load it into the flash board and make the second element point to that CP80 sample.

I used to sample my own percussion instruments using Kontakt. I think I understand a bit how it works. I'm still learning. It makes me think:
How could I determine what was the root note of the original samples CP80, CP80+ and CP80-? or are these three waveforms a set of wave files and internally they have been mapped within a file called waveform? and that waveform is what the MOTIF reads or points to for the elements that can be edited in Edit Mode?

am I going on the right path? By the way I'm getting prepared for when the Flash board gets shipped to my house (I will purchase a 512 MB one)

Thank you again
  1. more than a month ago
  2. MOXF
  3. # 2
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I started reading this article: http://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/moxf_flash_board
all is making more sense... I'll keep on learning
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Bad Mister
Yamaha
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  2. MOXF
  3. # 4
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Sound library designed with the internal waveforms (no samples) of the MOXF

https://www.hispasonic.com/anuncios/yamaha-cp70-pianos-yamaha -motif-xf-moxf-montage / 747887
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