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Don't forget to update you OS for type 2 string resonance but then you have to physically change to type 2 under the utility menu. I tested this out by turning up the string resonance knob on the piano and then comparing the 2 types. The upper register is where I noticed the difference the most. One seemed to carry the resonance of the hammer strike (type 1) while the other seemed to carry the resonance of the string vibration (type 2).
Posted : 08/03/2016 9:15 pm
Hi David,
you are - as far as I know - the owner of a CP1 and a Montage. Do you have also a Motif xf?
If so: When you compare the acoustic piano sound of the CP1 to the Cp1 samples made for the XF - are there any differences?
I am wondering about the fact that Yamaha says you can´t here any velocity switches on the CP1 but on my XF I can see the differnt velocity layers on the CP1 samples.
Are they really the same? Witch of the piano types in the CP1 was used for the Motif Cp1 samples?
Thank you for answering!
Posted : 16/02/2017 6:59 am
When you compare the acoustic piano sound of the CP1 to the Cp1 samples made for the XF - are there any differences?
The major difference is the Motif XF data is based on samples, the CP1 uses SCM (Spectral Component Modeling) to recreate the acoustic and electric pianos. Sample data (as in the Motif XF) behave differently - they use velocity switching to change timbre throughout its range, SCM does not use velocity switching between samples, its not based on samples, it's an entirely different process.
So the experience of playing the CP1 is different from playing the samples made from CP1 data for the Motif XF.
Similarly: The FM in the CP1 is actual FM, the FM sounds you hear and play in the Motif XF are samples of FM, the difference is in how they behave. The Motif XF rendition of FM and SCM is velocity switching sample-based technology, both SCM and FM as found in the CP1 are more organic, not based on velocity switching between pre-recorded samples. The data is recreated based on an analysis of how harmonic content changes throughout the range of velocities, you are not playing back a simple static sample when you play the CP1.
Posted : 16/02/2017 7:45 am
So let me ask one final question about this now... did Yamaha then sample the sound of the Cp1 to get CP1 samples to put into the MotifXF?
Sampling the sound of an instrument that already is a recretaion of a natural piano would be a pretty strange thought?!
Posted : 16/02/2017 7:30 pm
The Physical Modeling in the CP1 is based on an analysis of the data generated by the instruments being modeled... that data is assembled in the Modeling engine. The CFX, the CFIIIS, S6, are the acoustic grands that were the source instruments. The same data can be formatted for use (as samples) in the AWM2 engine.
Posted : 17/02/2017 12:14 am
I am sorry but this is still uncelar to me.
What is the source for XF version of CP1? Is it CP1 digital piano or the real acoustic piano?
Posted : 19/09/2017 9:32 am
