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Rod
 Rod
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It's said that every touch screen control has a button/slider/knob counterpart on the Montage - which I question? I wonder because my Korg M3 has a touch screen, now 7 years old, which is decidedly flaky in operation, and very unreliable - no way could you gig with it! So have touch screens evolved into reliable-for-life, or will the Montage screen become flaky too? The combination of touch screen that was too small and didn't tilt nearly stopped me buying a Montage - and I'd much rather have my non-touch but larger and tilting Tyros screen any day.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 8:23 am
Jason
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I haven't run through all the screens to see what the manual vs. touchscreen story is (if you can get by without the touch part of the screen). However, your tilting non-touch screen is an optional (currently unofficial) add-on to the Montage. See https://www.yamahasynth.com/forum/undocumented-montage-features and the embedded link for more info.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 9:22 am
 Hale
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The screen works great as far as its sensitivity goes and how much can be accomplished on the screen, but many of the parameters are too small to touch/activate on the fly. It takes quite a bit of precision aim. I wish the screen was larger.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 3:02 pm
Rod
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Hello Jason, and thanks for your info:, but I have established the items I need to use the PC monitor as a repeater screen, switchable between the PC and the Montage. I'm just hoping Yamaha may surface with a purpose made solution that would get rid of the green bar - they ought to have done so by now, I'd have thought. Ditto with a Montage-dedicated speaker set, come to that!

Hale, I agree the screen is clear and works well - for now. So did my Korg M3 when it was new, but it deteriorated over the years and is now very hit or miss. I frequently have to resort to the 'Exit' button to get out of an impossible situation. I just don't trust touch-screens any more, and would much prefer a complete set of manual controls instead ... did I mention a tilt screen ... ?

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 3:21 pm
 Jan
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When creating performances I use the screen for additional fine-tuning. It allows for details, not directly available by the buttons. These touch-parts are small and take time (and errors) while selecting. Sometimes I use the cursor-keys for navigation while editing.

But when playing live, all the hard work has been prepared in advance and i just use the [mute/solo = bank/page] and [scene] buttons for fast and flawless selection of live-sets and pages. This combination works great for me and I can concentrate on playing the keys.

However, like stated before, I would like to have a second screen in the middle, for sometimes peeking at score / PDF. I now us a tablet positioned at the left side empty space at my montage 8. But that is not ergonomic.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 8:35 pm
Peter
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Hi Rod, I agree - the Tyros tilt screen is a nice size, if only Yamaha had the foresight to make it a touch screen. I don't like them because you have to be so accurate with your touch and fat fingers don't help.
Luckily my Korg M3 screen is still ok but I find it too small - I have to use a stylus which is no good for quick changes playing live.
At least with the Montage you can set everything up then ignore the touch screen and just use the buttons.
Cheers
Peter

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 10:45 pm
 Phil
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That's true - I'd never try to select a performance from a live set from the touch screen in a live show. Even if they had made the colours more obvious (as opposed to a thin line). It's much easier finding the performance from the hardware buttons.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 10:54 pm
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