You're not limited to 8 at a time.

You're limited to 8 Parts at a time under direct keyboard control.  Each of those 8 Parts can have 70ish samples (if you want) assigning each sample to a different key in a drum Part.  Or a single AWM2 Part can have 8 Elements and each of these Elements can have hundreds of samples split by key range or velocity or both.

There are certain resources that are limited to 8.  Number of samples just isn't one of these things.

And you could create 640 use Performances each with their own (different) user samples.

Please start by telling WHAT you actually want to do. There may be a misunderstanding about what some of the terminology means as it relates to a Modx.

Hello on the modx6+ to my understanding you can only load 8 user (custom) sounds/samples at a time.

For Yamaha a 'sample' is basically equivalent to a WAV file. A 'sound' isn't a term that really has a unique meaning:

1. sound - a wav file

2. sound - a 'waveform' used by an Element

3. sound - the output produced by a part

4. sound - the output produced by a performance

Each of those above mean an entirely different thing. But 'only load 8' would most directly apply to #2 - each AWM2 part can only have from 1 to 8 elements and each element can only use 1 waveform. Note - a yamaha 'waveform' is NOT a 'sample' or 'WAV' file but can contain up to 256 samples.

I was told there is a way to create a "Library" with all of your user samples baked into that library folder to go around the 8 loaded user sounds slot. If so how can i go about doing that?

That is close but the terminology may be tripping you up again. A library can contain user 'waveforms' (not samples) but that has NOTHING to do with any limitation of '8' or anything.

I create sounds on older vintage gear and i want to be able to upload 15-20 sounds i created on to the modx+ without being limited to just 8 user sounds slots.

By 'sounds' do you mean definition #1 above - you have 15-20 WAV files that you want to use? Or do you mean 'sound' in the sense of 'the sound of a Rhodes piano' or 'the sound of broken glass' and you want each of the keys to produce that same sound but, perhaps at a different pitch.

The hierarchy for the Yamaha Modx/Montage line is more like:

1. performance - consists of 1-16 parts - 8 of which can be under keyboard control - the other 8 can be played by an external controller

2. part - a component with one of three types: AWM2, FM-X, DRUM Each type has a different purpose and structure. The AWM2 and DRUM types have 'elements' which each use one, and only one, 'waveform'

3. element - a component that uses ONE associated 'waveform' to control the sound the element produces.

4. waveform - a collection of up to 256 'key banks' - each keybank contains 'looped audio samples'. Each keybank is associated with a specific velocity range and note range.

5. looped audio sample - the equivalent of a WAV file. Samples are used to create a keybank for a waveform. When you load an audio sample you specify the velocity range (0-127) and the Note Range (C-2 to G8) the sample should be considered for.

Please describe more completely what 'sounds' you have and what you want to do with them.

If the sounds are, essentially, WAV files then you would use them to create one or more 'waveforms' and then assign those waveforms to AWM2 elements.

If the sounds are more like 'Rhodes piano' or 'Alto Saxophone' then you would either find an existing preset performance that produces that sound or a similar sound. Or you would recreate the sound manually using functionality on the Modx.

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For Yamaha a 'sample' is basically equivalent to a WAV file. A 'sound' isn't a term that really has a unique meaning:

1. sound - a wav file

2. sound - a 'waveform' used by an Element

3. sound - the output produced by a part

4. sound - the output produced by a performance

 

Hi Toby (or should we call you Bill?).

This looks like another case of gibberish generated by your AI bot.

For the record, and benefit of the OP,   the info you supplied, from start to finish is incorrect.

To the OP.   This is a big subject.

Just to clear things up.... the MODX will accept .WAV or .AIFF Files to be used as "Samples".  To be loaded into the MODX, these files need to be stored on the USB Stick.

In the MODX, Samples are used in the AWM2 Engine only.... either inside a "Normal" AWM2 Part (e.g. Pianos, Violins etc) or a "Drum" AWM2 Part (e.g. Snares, Tom's etc...  but anything you want really).

In a Normal Part, the Samples are loaded into "Elements" for manipulation.

In a Drom Part, the Samples are loaded into "Drum Keys" for manipulation (A Sample per Piano Key).

Internally in the MODX, Samples are referred to as "Waveforms".  They are one and the same thing, it's just a naming convention. 

Waveforms (Samples) can be organised into something called a "Key Bank".  In effect,  a Key Bank is what is otherwise known as a "Multi Sample". I'm guessing you won't be using that much... but at least you know the option is there. 

The only limit to the number of User Samples is User Memory.  You have a finite amount of User Memory, and any loaded User Samples will use that memory, even if you are not using them. Samples typically use the most Memory,  but having 15-20 User Samples will likely be fine.

The MODX can also record its own .wav files. You access this via the "Recorder" Transport controls (Record, Play, Stop etc).  I won't go into that now, but for example, you can record yourself playing, and it will save a .wav file to your USB. You could, in theory, use that as a Sample, but it's messy. What you really need is an external Sample Editor and Manager such as John Melas's "Sample Robot",  available at a small 3rd Party cost, for use with the MODX/Montage. 

In the Reference Manual, refer to the following topics

1)  "Internal Memory"

2) Element Edit -->  "New Waveform"

3) Element Edit --> "Edit Waveform" (Key Bank).

4) Drum Part Edit --> Key Edit --> "New Waveform". 

As an aside,  the only times I have ever used "User Samples" is to cue up some "famous song" passage.  For example.. 

- the "Clocks and Bells" at the start of Pink Floyd's "Time".

- the "Money Bags" Loop at the  start of Pink Floyd's "Money".

I used a Drum Part,  with the sample loaded onto a specific Piano Key...  pressing that Key starts the Sample playing.  You can pitch the Samples up or down here too, to be "intune" with the band... but beware Tuning Up, also speeds up the Tempo of the sample... there is no auto-correction of Pitch.

Oh by the way...

Once your User Samples are loaded into the MODX, creating a "User Library" will create a Library File, that stores any selected User Performances, including any User Samples that are used in them.  

However, "Using Libraries"  is another topic. 

Hi Toby (or should we call you Bill?).

Why would call me Bill when my name is Toby.

This looks like another case of gibberish generated by your AI bot.

I'm not a bot - my posts are all real and based on my own extensive experience.

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That is what I have just done because if I'm not mistaken you use the name 'TooTone' when you post on another forum where YOU have been accused of being a bot. Old threads show that someone also reported several of your replies in the old version of these forums as having 'bot like' content.

I pointed out to the moderators your recent reply that seemingly tries to direct attention away from yourself by posting this

BTW... I hope you can see I'm not a Robot AI.

This is "source" knowledge.

https://yamahasynth.com/community/montage-series-synthesizers/re-super-knob-there-is-a-middle-value-now-middle-value-for-what-purpose/paged/2/#post-125552

That is a rather odd thing to say out of the blue.

Please contribute any useful knowledge you may have to people asking for help with problems. Posting personal commentary is childish and an insult to the people that use the forum to seek help or advice with an issue they are having.

Again - in the future you will be expected to take up other matters with the moderators. That is certainly what I intend to do.

You ain't fooling anyone. 

Bill aka Andrew aka Douglas (on YamahaMusicians. com where you were banned)... now aka Toby (with a "B" avatar. "B" for Bill?). 

I don't know what your game is mate, but I'd politely request that if you don't know the answer, stay out of it.

Also, please stop belittling, berating and chastising new comers to the forum. They enter to "learn" and seek solutions.  They don't need you boxing them round the ears because their question was not in a format you can feed to your AI. 

If you actually knew the subject matter (yamaha synthesisers), you would not need to resort to such tactics. 

You are not "Yamaha Staff" although you behave as if you are here in some official capacity.  You've been doing this now for years.

There is nothing worse for an "information pool" than to have someone spamming inaccuracies, irrelevancies, and misconceptions on a daily basis. You muddy the water. 

I'll leave it there.