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In each Performance I set which Parts should respond to the expression pedal for volume changes, using Parts Edit - Mod/Control - Receive SW - Vol/Exp On/Off. However, though Vol/Exp is set to Off for the Part that I used to create a drums Pattern, the volume of this (drums) Pattern still responds to expression pedal changes. Obviously, it sounds silly if the drums volume constantly changes along with e.g. a dynamic organ solo.
How do I avoid the expression pedal changes affecting the volume of the recorded Pattern, while still being able to affect the volume of selected Parts?
Posted : 13/03/2023 6:39 pm
In each Performance I set which Parts should respond to the expression pedal for volume changes, using Parts Edit - Mod/Control - Receive SW - Vol/Exp On/Off.
That is exactly correct. This should allow you to prevent Vol (cc7) or Exp (cc11) messages from affecting the Part.
Your default Controllers for these are as follows:
The Slider on your Drum Part sends cc7
The FC7 plugged into Foot Control 1 sends cc11
Since this is not working, then you need to begin your search for a cause by reviewing how/if you have programming preventing the proper response.
Can you provide details on your Control Assign setup for the Drum Part?
The “Part Volume” found in the “Mod/Control” > “Control Assign” setup matrix is not affected by the “Vol/Exp” Receive Switch. As mentioned, the Receive Sw “Vol” is the Slider (cc7)… which is equivalent to the Mixer setting; while “Part Volume” is like the individual volume control on the instrument itself.
Posted : 14/03/2023 2:48 am
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Thank you Bad Mister, I will dig into this when back home. If anyone can explain what "Control Assign setup for the Drum Part" is and where to find it, that would be much appreciated.
Posted : 14/03/2023 7:22 am
The “Part Volume” found in the “Mod/Control” > “Control Assign” setup matrix is not affected by the “Vol/Exp” Receive Switch.
Select the Drum Part
Enter [EDIT]
Touch “Mod/Control” > “Control Assign”
Here you will find the screen where parameter “Destination” can be assigned to a controller “Source”. There are 4 PAGEs, each PAGE has 4 possible Source/Destination setups. Destinations per Part are numbered “Destination 1” thru “Destination 16” per Part
Tap and set the “Display Filter” box = All (by turning the Data Dial fully clockwise).
The “Display Filter” simply changes which Controller you are viewing currently, by setting it to “All” you will be able to review all of the assignments to your Drum Kit Part.
This will recall all assigned “Destinations” (4 per PAGE, 4 PAGEs maximum). Review all assignments…
If you see “Volume” as an assignment “Destination”… that is the “Part Volume”, I referred to…
“Part Volume” is not affected by the Receive Switch setting.
You can Delete a Control Assignment by highlighting the Destination box then tapping the “Delete” box in the lower right corner of the screen.
The Receive Switch for “Vol/Exp” works for cc7 (Volume Slider for the Drum Part) and cc11 (Expression via Foot Ctrl 1 set to cc11 - the default).
Posted : 14/03/2023 12:51 pm
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Thank you so much for your help Bas Mister! I don't what exactly made the difference, but the outcome is that the expression pedal no longer affects the volume of the drum pattern in this performance!!
Posted : 14/03/2023 4:16 pm
I don't what exactly made the difference, but the outcome is that the expression pedal no longer affects the volume of the drum pattern in this performance!!
It would be a help to others to know WHAT you did that fixed the problem.
Did you find and delete a Control/Assign for Volume? If so then that is what made the difference.
The thing that made the difference must be something you did so if you tell us what you did we can likely tell explain why that made a difference.
Posted : 14/03/2023 5:08 pm
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Andrew, if I knew what exactly fixed this problem, I would have obviously shared it! I did make changes in the Control Assign section, deleting Control Assignments, based on Bad Mister's guidance. However, I did not find “Volume” as an assigned Destination. Maybe, deleting these control assignments fixed the problem. Another possibility is that I may have saved changes in Receive SW - Vol/Exp only in the Performance itself initially, but not in the Live Set that combines the Performance with the linked Pattern. I did so many things, that I simply don't know for sure. I'm sorry for that!
Posted : 14/03/2023 7:12 pm
The important thing is you got your problem fixed. But I would add that if you don't know which thing you did fixed your problem then you run the risk that something you deleted/changed may have unintentionally caused another issue that you might not have discovered yet.
May I suggest that you consider a different way of testing/fixing things?
1. Backup your user area - the Reference doc has the steps to follow if you don't know how.
2. Do your testing/fixxing
3. Reload your backup if you make a mistake or need to get back to the starting point.
You should ALWAYS make regular backups as you change things just like with a document or spreadsheet that you work on.
Without a backup you have no way to recover from any mistake you make trying to fix a problem.
With a backup you can just reload your backup file and you will be right back where you started. That way you don't lose something important in case you make a mistake fixing things.
Another possibility is that I may have saved changes in Receive SW - Vol/Exp only in the Performance itself initially, but not in the Live Set that combines the Performance with the linked Pattern
The Live Set doesn't contain a copy of a performance - it has a link to it. Except for Volume, which you can set and store in the Live Set entry, anything you save in the performance will be there if you select that performance from the live set area.
Posted : 14/03/2023 7:32 pm
