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Programming queries:
1. How can I remove the delay from Guitar/Hybrd1CoilEGtr?
2. I hear no "swell" on Brass/Pop Brass Swell. How may I add this?
3. Notes drop on Piano/CFX Pop/Rock, both when I am demoing and after I insert into Part 1. No other parts are programmed.

Thank you, gurus!

 
Posted : 30/12/2021 10:47 pm
Jason
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1. How can I remove the delay from Guitar/Hybrd1CoilEGtr?

1) Recall "Hybrid 1coil E.Gtr" Preset Performance
2) Touch Part 1, chose "Edit"
3) Left-hand menus: "Effect" -> "Routing"
4) Notice Insertion B is the Delay "Tempo Delay Stereo"

Options:

From above step 4 you can: 5) press the "ON" button next to B to turn off the delay.

OR

5alt) Choose left-hand menu "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign"
6alt) Press upper-left "Auto Select" so it is green instead of grey.
7alt) Make sure [ASSIGN] button is illuminated - touch it if it is not.
8alt) Spin each of the knobs until you see "InsB Dry/Wet" - this parameter sets how much Delay to mix in
NOTE: Part 1 assignable knob 1 is the answer. But generally you would need to hunt through all 8 knobs and perhaps not even find this depending on how the Performance was programmed.
9alt) With Insertion B effect till on (because you didn't turn it off with this path) - spin the Assignable Knob 1 counter clockwise to full CCW position.

Note: Parts 2&3 also have a delay for Insertion Effect B - so go through and apply the same steps for Parts 2 and 3.

OR

Spin the superknob to the full counter-clockwise position. This moves (for all Parts) Parts 1-3 Assignable Knob 1 AND 2. Assignable Knob #2 in each of these Parts is the Insertion B (Delay) Feedback level. Having a delay that's "off" (maximum dry, minimum wet) makes the feedback amount not matter.

Note: You can setup scenes to force the superknob to the full counter-clockwise position and/or save your own copy of this Performance that sets Superknob to a the full counter-clockwise position when the Performance is recalled.

2. I hear no "swell" on Brass/Pop Brass Swell. How may I add this?

Superknob controls the swell. Generally if you're wondering what a Performance does - first press the [AUDITION] button and pay careful attention to the controls on screen and/or superknob. In this case the audition does a couple of "swell" demos and you can see the superknob is quickly moved to a low value before the swell then relatively slower around to the highest value for the swell.

3. Notes drop on Piano/CFX Pop/Rock, both when I am demoing and after I insert into Part 1. No other parts are programmed.

What's going on here depends a lot on what you're doing. Sustain pedal? Repeated notes with sustain? etc

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 2:06 am
Antony
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Painful as 900 pages is, Reading The Manual is a necessity.

1) Turn off the Insert Effects to remove Delay (InsB). Select Part - Edit - Common - Effect - Routing. Do for Parts 1, 2 & 3.

2) Audition the Performance. You'll see it has Motion Control, and the Swell is achieved by turning the SuperKnob down, playing the notes and turning the SKnob up. Classic "Volume Pedal" swell. The "Swell" function is a bunch of Control Assign functions, combined with Motion Control Functions (Super Knob).

3) Most likely because CFX Pop/Rock is a Multi Part Performance. It is designed to be Multi-Part. If you "borrow" just Part 1 from the Performance, you are only borrowing "some" of the playable notes.

If you want a complete Piano in only a Single Part, Category Search for Pianos in "Green Ink" ( Multi Parts are in Blue Ink). Then you can add this Part to whatever other performance you are creating.

You can also add ALL Parts from a MultiPart, assuming there are enough free Part Slots to do this (Marked with a "+" in the Home Screen). This is called a Performance Merge (check the Reference Manual).

I suggest...

Understanding Motion Control/Sequencing and Control Assign functions should be high on your priority list if you intend to mix and match Parts from different Performances.

There are Reference Manual Sections that provide a High Level Overview. But, there is no single "detailed" Section that covers all this. Instead you will find relevant information spread across the various AWM2, FM-X and Drum Sections. You will run into difficulty very quickly if you don't understand these. Nearly every Performance has Assign and Motion Control to varying degrees.

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 3:25 am
Dragos
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This series is a great introduction into the overall functionality od the MODX:

https://www.yamahasynth.com/learn/modx/mastering-modx-article-series-music-synthesizer

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 8:01 am
Jason
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Most likely because CFX Pop/Rock is a Multi Part Performance.

This is a good point. If you do not have all of the Parts of "CFX Pop/Rock" in your usage then all bets are off. If you use only a portion of a multi-Part Performance then this requires knowing what all of the Parts in the multi-Part Performance do and what consequence you would have by removing any Part(s). "Training wheels" would dictate that you only Performance merge all of the Parts of multi-Part Performances or recall the Preset and use it as-is (perhaps adding Parts to CFX Pop/Rock). You also have to be careful with mute and keyboard control to be sure that all original Parts of a multi-Part performance are simultaneously active (unmuted) and under keyboard control when you want that instrument to play.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 1:06 pm
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Thanks for your detailed responses. However, the CFX Pop/Rock appears not to be multi-part. It only loads in Part 1. I'm combining with no other performances. Not using any pedal. playing only chromatic single notes to test. Notes are dropping. Why?

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 4:11 pm
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Jason:
2. I hear no "swell" on Brass/Pop Brass Swell. How may I add this?

Superknob controls the swell. Generally if you're wondering what a Performance does - first press the [AUDITION] button and pay careful attention to the controls on screen and/or superknob. In this case the audition does a couple of "swell" demos and you can see the superknob is quickly moved to a low value before the swell then relatively slower around to the highest value for the swell.

Jason, I see no such Superknob response, in the demo or otherwise. The Superknob does not create the swell for me. Looks like I have to set the Superknob to do this.

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 4:55 pm
Jason
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Cheri,

Maybe you're using custom Performances not the presets. Use the Presets in their original form. Superknob does the swell in the original preset Performance. If you start building your own Performances with Parts and merge them in - then you'll need to reconnect Superknob to the Part(s) appropriately.

Say you're combining Pop Brass Swell with another Part that doesn't depend so much on Superknob control. I would first recall the Preset "Pop Brass Swell" then add the other Part(s) to it. This way you don't have to reconstruct the superknob connections because you started with "Pop Brass Swell" instead of adding it after-the-fact.

Of course if you combine two different Parts that both have a dependence on superknob then you have to decide which one is either more important for superknob control or determine if both have the superknob active if they will or will not conflict with each other.

I'm assuming the [AUDITION] button doesn't work because you're not using the "Pop Brass Swell" Preset Performance. However, if you are using it and [AUDITION] doesn't do anything - make sure you have the "Audition Lock" turned off under the [UTILITY] "Settings" -> "Advanced" menu.

... and

CFX Pop/Rock is a 4-Part Performance. When you recall the original factory Preset Performance for "CFX Pop/Rock" - you will see 4 Parts. At the [PERFORMANCE] (HOME) screen if you are looking at the Parts with the "Name" view - then only Part 1 will show "CFX Pop/Rock" as the name. The next 3 Parts will show something else. Still - these are the 4 Parts of CFX Pop/Rock.

If you've created your own Performance by combining "CFX Pop/Rock" with something else - then these same 4 Parts need to be in your new custom Performance. This would have been done by doing a Performance Merge and ensuring the source had ALL Parts selected to copy to your User Performance. If you did not merge all 4 Parts - then you are missing critical portions of "CFX Pop/Rock".

See "merge" in:

https://yamahasynth.com/learn/modx/mastering-modx-category-search

Also, you would need 4 free (empty) slots before Part 8 in order for the merge to allow for all 4 Parts of "CFX Pop/Rock" to be under keyboard control if you merged in "CFX Pop/Rock" to an existing Performance. It would be easier to start with "CFX Pop/Rock" and merge in something else. Unless you're trying to combine the "Pop Brass Swell" with "CFX Pop/Rock" - in which case it would be easier to start with "Pop Brass Swell" (2 Parts) and then merge in "CFX Pop/Rock" (4 Parts - starting at Part 3). In which case these two will consume 6 of the first 8 Part slots.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 31/12/2021 5:34 pm
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