Has there been any mention of the new update making life easier when controlling Arps on the MODX? It really could do with a screen which emulates the hard buttons that I have on my MOXF as it's not easy setting Arps to hold / unhold etc.

We moved your MODX Question to the MODX Forum as it will get confusing enough between models. The MODX question deserves its own space.

Not sure if 2.0 makes life easier when controlling Arps. But did you know:
Arp Select can be put on a pop-in screen on your current firmware
From the HOME screen touch “Motion Control” > “Arpeggio”
The Arp Select option appear as soft buttons in the screen.

“Arp Select” can be accessed also using the red Scene buttons [1]-[4] / [5]-[8] this would be more like the hardware buttons on your MOXF.
There is a button that toggles [1]-[4] to [5]-[8] just to the left of the red SCENE buttons.

Any “Arp Select” number 1-8 and any “Motion Seq Select” number 1-8, can be linked with any of the 8 Scenes.
From the HOME screen touch “Scene”
The very first MEMORY ON/OFF switch is for Arp Select/MSeqs ... if that Memory Switch is On, the current Arp Select 1-8 will be memorized in the current Scene location.

Did you know: Most of the Factory Performances already use the Scene buttons to recall Arp Select.

Amber Alert! Hold is accessible!
Also on the HOME screen there is a box on each Part slot for ARP.
ARP Off box is grey
ARP On box is blue
ARP Hold box is amber

Touch the grey box (Arp Off) turns blue (Arp On), Hold [SHIFT] + [ARP box] turns amber (Arp Hold)

So from the HOME screen you can both operate Arp Select, by simply using the red [SCENE] buttons 1-4/5-8...
and you can activate Arp Hold by simply knowing to use [SHIFT] when touching the Part’s Arp box.
No firmware update necessary for your requests.

Has there been any mention of the new update making life easier when controlling Arps on the MODX? It really could do with a screen which emulates the hard buttons that I have on my MOXF as it's not easy setting Arps to hold / unhold etc.

We moved your MODX Question to the MODX Forum as it will get confusing enough between models. The MODX question deserves its own space.

Not sure if 2.0 makes life easier when controlling Arps. But did you know:
Arp Select can be put on a pop-in screen on your current firmware
From the HOME screen touch “Motion Control” > “Arpeggio”
The Arp Select option appear as soft buttons in the screen.

“Arp Select” can be accessed also using the red Scene buttons [1]-[4] / [5]-[8] this would be more like the hardware buttons on your MOXF.
There is a button that toggles [1]-[4] to [5]-[8] just to the left of the red SCENE buttons.

Any “Arp Select” number 1-8 and any “Motion Seq Select” number 1-8, can be linked with any of the 8 Scenes.
From the HOME screen touch “Scene”
The very first MEMORY ON/OFF switch is for Arp Select/MSeqs ... if that Memory Switch is On, the current Arp Select 1-8 will be memorized in the current Scene location.

Did you know: Most of the Factory Performances already use the Scene buttons to recall Arp Select.

Amber Alert! Hold is accessible!
Also on the HOME screen there is a box on each Part slot for ARP.
ARP Off box is grey
ARP On box is blue
ARP Hold box is amber

Touch the grey box (Arp Off) turns blue (Arp On), Hold [SHIFT] + [ARP box] turns amber (Arp Hold)

So from the HOME screen you can both operate Arp Select, by simply using the red [SCENE] buttons 1-4/5-8...
and you can activate Arp Hold by simply knowing to use [SHIFT] when touching the Part’s Arp box.
No firmware update necessary for your requests.

Thanks but I am aware of all that already 🙂

The problem is that unless you have fingers that are a foot long, there's no way that the Shift and the ARP box can be pressed using one hand. This is a major problem for me because I will be using my left hand to play and that just leaves me with the right hand to toggle the hold on or off.

Basically I want an easy way to be able to toggle Hold on/off whilst playing live and at the moment this is not easy.

Basically I want an easy way to be able to toggle Hold on/off whilst playing live and at the moment this is not easy.

Once ARP HOLD is On (you already know how to do that)... then toggling it Off is a matter of just touching the box (one finger), toggling it back to HOLD is a simple matter of just touching the box again (one finger). Come on, you can do that! 🙂

Basically I want an easy way to be able to toggle Hold on/off whilst playing live and at the moment this is not easy.

Once ARP HOLD is On (you already know how to do that)... then toggling it Off is a matter of just touching the box (one finger), toggling it back to HOLD is a simple matter of just touching the box again (one finger). Come on, you can do that! 🙂

That’s assuming that Hold is on already when playing the performance though isn’t it? Also there are times when I want to start off with the Arp being switched off and then change it to being on and on hold

I really do want to make the MODX work for me but at the moment I might end up having to get rid of it and maybe buy a Montage which will make life easier for me. I don’t want to have to do this because it will cost me more money and I will lose money on the MODX having to sell it so I was hoping that the next update would make life a little easier 🙂

I see where you are coming from...On the MOXF the [PERFORMANCE CONTROL] function turned four of the Track buttons into ARP ON/OFF (5-8) and four others into ARP HOLD (13-16) giving hardware buttons to each of the four Arpeggiators. I can see how that would spoil you if working with Arps “Live”.

With eight Arpeggiators, and eight Arp Selects, in the MODX, there is not a similar quick access function to controlling Arps. I see now, that you did know all this already... the move up to eight Arps and the lack of hardware buttons seems to have done in that feature of quick access in MODX.

On the MOXF you had dedicated Arp Select buttons under the screen (6) and the four Arp On/Off, four Arp Hold buttons in the Performance Control feature. 14 total buttons Arp manipulation buttons

The MODX would need 8 Arp Select plus 8 Arp On/Off, and 8 Arp Hold. 24 total buttons. Then double that if you add Motion Sequences
(I think I see why this is not implemented on MODX),
Even on the MONTAGE with its plethora of front panel buttons gives the user 8 Arp Selects and 8 Motion Seq Selects, 8 Arp On/Offs and 8 Motion Seq On/Offs... but the direct access to 8 Arp Hold 8 MSeq Hold) are not accessible via hardware buttons.

I’d have to take another look at a workaround... I think I know now how you were using the MOXF.
Also when you get firmware 2.0 see if the new Pattern feature can take over some of what you were doing with Arps...
What I’m thinking is, it is fairly obvious that the Arp feature when used like a Style accompaniment engine is a bit clumsy (fill-ins do not automatically return to Main sections, etc., etc.) pulling off a 1-measure Fill-in can be a bit cumbersome... This is, perhaps, because it was designed with the transfer of the Arp Phrases to a Recorder as the primary use situation. Using it to do the real time Style-thing is a challenge... but it was primarily designed to function as a construction tool (production), that said, perhaps new methods can be introduced.

The new Pattern Recorder features a way to reassemble your Arp Phrases into a (potentially) more useful configuration.
By setting “Key-On Start” and “Loop” Record = Off, you are able to print Arp Phrases to a Pattern Phrase. For fixed note phrases like drum Patterns, this offers a whole new workflow and a few new ways to place drum fills into your musical sections. You can transfer Arp data to the Pattern Sequencer - append the fill-in to the Phrase at the appropriate measure... so instead of playing a Main groove for 7 measures, switching to a 1-measure Fill-in Arp, and immediately having switch to the next section... you can construct 8 Measure Pattern sections that include the Fill-in measure in the appropriate place.

Anyway, it will be worth a look ...
MODX firmware drops in a couple of weeks.

If you post this to IdeaScale be sure to mention [PERFORMANCE CONTROL] when mentioning hardware buttons and mention using Arps “live”. Thanks, sorry for misreading your original post.

Thanks very much for taking the time to understand and reply 🙂

I will wait and see what the new version brings... I don’t mind changing the way I work if another method achieves what I want.

When I reviewed adding the MODX to my keyboard collection as an option for a lighter keyboard - I couldn't see giving up the hardware buttons available on Montage that ease some of these things. Other downscaling I could manage (no ribbon, less FM-X polyphony, SSS limitation vs Montage, less sample memory).

The other option is to throw external hardware at it. A pedal board that can send Sysex may be programmed to toggle ARP Hold. In the future - with USB MIDI devices supported - there may be more options of devices that you can attach to add button/knob/etc. control.

Well, believe it or not, I've finally got around to registering at IdeaScale and posting a request for an easier way to set an Arp to Hold when playing it live. It's only taken me just under a year!