Hello! I have one more question, in recording mode— midi— song mode . I have only replace mode to choose. In pattern mode I have replace- overdubs to choose and I see on a video the there should be overdubs and punch-in in song mode. I have restarted the MODX but no change, should I re-install the version 2.51

No. it is unlikely an issue with the version. If your UTILITY > “Settings” > “System” screen reports 2.51 then it is probably just a misunderstanding of the MIDI Song workflow.

The Performance Recorder will record your interaction with the current MODX Performance. There are 128 Song locations. When you press Record and are doing an original Recording there is no choice for “Rec Type”. Original Recording is just that, the original Recording. You can opt to Record Arp (or not).

Make an original recording.
If you don’t like your original Performance Recording, meaning: you rewind to the Top and press [Record] now you can select whether you want to Replace, Overdub or Punch... (you must actually have a recording to replace, to overdub to, or to punch in to)
Replace - which will wipe out your original recording
Overdub - which allows you to add new data to the existing original recording
Punch - which allows you to replace specific measures within the original recording.

You may be looking for these options when they do not apply.

EXTRA CREDIT
Because it is a Performance Recorder, this means it must be able to record everything you do to the Performance — as you know you do not have to be playing all sound simultaneously, you may bring them in via the Super Knob, or via an Assign Switch, etc. You may be controlling several AWM2 and FM-X Parts simultaneously where what you are recording is the interaction of the two engines. But of course, you can also record one instrument Part at a time (in a more traditional fashion). You simply program the keyboard to *control* the Part you wish to Overdub, one by one.

It can Record whatever you do to the current Performance. You do not put a Track in Record as much as you put the Sequencer into Record. If you choose to control a Part it gets recorded to its own dedicated Track... when the Sequencer is in Record all Tracks can document the data intended for its own Part. If you communicate with that Part, it’s dedicated Track will document it.

If you are linked to four Parts using KBD CTRL during the original recording... you will want to deactivate KBD CTRL on those four Parts if your goal is overdub using a different instrument sound.

The current KBD CTRL Parts can be stored in Scenes— making possible to select what instruments you are interacting with during an overdub session. You might use several different lead sounds - since each has its own dedicated Track, you need only *select* it to be overdubbing that Part.

In other words, if you want your original recording to playback, and only playback, deactivate KBD CTRL. Activate KBD CTRL on the Part, or Parts, you do wish to add to the original recording.
In order to accomplish OVERDUB, you must prepare the Performance - you can only select REC TYPE = Overdub, when data already exists.

Hope that helps.

Hello there!
I am sure that I have record and that the record button light but and I have only replace mode to choose! I begin to discover the pattern mode first so I have learned me that but now the time here in Sweden is late and is time to go to bed.

Performance recorder videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku39jiK7x8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kyWVo4UPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDil5y5SI0

Hi, now it works but I am sure I did the same thing yesterday, for you must be in record mode to see the window ”replace” and now I could see overdub and punch-in but not yesterday.

Now that you know how it works, it will continue to work like this... today, tomorrow, from now on.

Here is something else that can help:
If you’re on the Performance HOME screen and you press the [RECORD] button you will be taken to a NEW Sequence.
If you tap “Play/Rec” you will be taken to the most recently viewed Sequence.

Significant difference. Say you’re working on a MIDI Song, and you return to the Performance HOME screen to make some changes — if you want to return to the composition you were working on tap “Play/Rec”.

If you hit the [RECORD] button a New MIDI SONG (empty) will be setup.

Hi, I have the same problem still, I follow -Tech Talk Mode song recording- and after my first part recording
it looks like this after that I hit the record button

I don’t doubt you are seeing what you’re seeing...
I know how it is supposed to work.
I’m looking for how the routine can deviate from the path...
I’ve tested on a MONTAGE - I cannot reproduce this on MONTAGE yet
I’ve learned long ago, that this may be model specific.

I can test on a MODX tomorrow.

If you can... can you restate the exact steps to get where you are...

Hi, I think now I understod whats going wrong, I think I hit the play/rec on screen first and then record button, so if i hit the record button first an then the screen Play/ Rec I get overdub and punch in when I have record one track! Thanhs a lot.

Admittedly, I do not have a MODX to 100% correlate. That said, I tried my best to press "Play/Rec" on the touchscreen to try to "foul up" the system as you see. I wasn't able to do this despite trying.

What would help would be to turn off your MODX. Then flip the switch on and write down every single thing you touch, push, press, move, etc. And recreate the issue. There should be a goal not to do extraneous things because it takes longer to document and clouds up what the key steps are. Just do the minimum from power-on to get the system to demonstrate the problem you've expressed. And write it all down so it's repeatable by anyone else without ambiguity. Then express all of the steps clearly and completely.

It's good you've seemed to have figured out how to avoid the issue - but it still feels a bit swept under the rug.

Here is what is happening:

When setting up for your original recording to the MIDI Song portion of the Performance Recorder, if your intention is to add Tracks via the Overdub function, you need to set the “Arp Rec” feature = On. The Performance Recorder’s prime function is to document your interaction with the Motion Control Synthesis Engine... part of this mandate is to document any Arpeggios. “Arp Rec” is the usual default.

This is a routing issue, when "Arp Rec" = On ... all data will traverse the Arpeggiator block, which determines, on a Part-by-Part basis, whether to send the data to the track as is, or send the Phrase data generated by the Arpeggiator. Even if you are not using an Arpeggiator, you want to leave the "Arp Rec" feature On.

Like setting Time Signature, this setting can only be done prior to recording. When you record with "ARP REC" = On an amber “Arp” logo will appear next to the Song name... (see attachment). Basically, this function changes the routing situation... and will indicate to which Songs you can Overdub Record.

Added to MODX in firmware version 1.10
Added to MONTAGE in firmware version 2.50

Arp Rec
When this is set to on, the Arpeggiator output can be recorded. When this is set to off, only the keyboard performance is recorded. This can only be set when recording a new song. The setting cannot be changed after the recording. Also, when recording additional parts to previously recorded songs with this set to off, the Record Type can only be set to Replace.
Settings: Off, On
NOTE: Songs recorded with this set to off, can be played back with a different Arpeggio from the recorded one by changing to another Arpeggio set in Performance.

Extra Credit:
As the Note indicates, you would opt to OFF, when you would like to try different Drum grooves, or a different bass line, or a different guitar strumming phrase, etc.

When “Arp Rec” = Off, the data documented in the Track will be the actual direct notes you played. This setting allows those notes to trigger the Arpeggiator, in real-time, during playback. This is why this is an important one-time setting. Also when working with Arpeggios that require both *direct* sound + Arp *sorted* notes from the same Part, you’d opt to record with “Arp Rec” = Off.

Now I understood better, arp on!:D