Posted by: Toby

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Don't turn an expensive synth into a strobe light

Yamaha made this SK beat blinking functionality, so why don’t make it reliable in the real word and not only fancy. And because it is expensive, functions should to be accurate, no? Best would be to take profit of the montage M led sliders for indicate measures 1 to < 8. Maybe just few hours of programmation for Yamaha engineer. I put a request( I was not the only one) on ideas scale even I don’t have a M and don’t expect update for the original montage.

Posted by: Chris Duncan

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And as anyone knows, sexy sells way better than functional. 🙂

That’s the point and it is symptomatic. 😤 

https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/c/idea/171448

About the blinking philosophy and again an analogy with a car , it is like you have in a car fancy blinking headlight but they don’t light the road. so now I have a Ferrari, but I can only feed it with one litter of gas( memory) and its headlight don’t light the road. 🤣 but still love it 😍 
I am aware that maybe sometime my post looks like “ the complain of the geek” but in my defense, I am living in the world island number one in the lamentation musical style. I invite you to google: Corsican music, lamenti, paghjella.

So, some improvement there. Using arpeggio as1 or as2, just setting arpeggio to direct and I got a metronome with the preset as1 or 2 tri something. Have to engage the concerning part in the performance for its ass knob to move independently ( I would have love to see the 8 knobs  or some of them moving  together with different or not  setting for give a stronger signal to the eyes but that is not possible as far I understand. . It is quite well and help. Limitation is that you have in arpeggio assign,  only ass1 and 2. Not another knob, it will have been better for the vision angle to assign the knob 8 for that purpose I don’t know why only 1 and 2 are available in  arpeggio preset??? But already this little visual metronome is reassuring in my cockpit.

And for conclude my “geek complain” ,

in design, one of the main rules for designers and architects and the main for many of them is that  beauty is associated with  functionality, this is the graal of design. The light show on the Montage M will reach ultimate beauty when it will be at the service of the beat and its signature, this should be its main function for me (the ghost of Steve Jobs have whispered in my ear 🤭 )

I did, before authoring the last comment, create a user ARP the "hard" way using Montage only using MIDI record as I mentioned before.  What makes it hard is the timing of pressing one of the ASSIGN buttons on and off to setup a flash pattern in the arp.

Still, I did this to prove it worked OK.    I had ASSIGN 2 flashing to a beat (tempo).

I turned on quantize so on/off would align with an 8th note.   But it sure is easier to setup this pattern on an 8th note grid to toggle the ASSIGN 1 (or 2) CC from a value of 0 to 127 having the 127 value occur on the downbeat using a MIDI editor on a PC.  Or you could record mashing the ASSIGN button, save as a MIDI file, then edit this MIDI to align the on/off with the beat.

It does take using a Part but if not all 8 Parts are using an arpeggio then you can pick any Part used for something else (and doesn't have an arp) and add this arpeggio to flash the button.

Control arps should typically pass through keys so the keys are not impacted by the arp running.

Posted by: Jason

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The assignable switches used in presets use "AF1" or "AF2"

Jason, where can you find these presets?

Posted by: Jason

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I did, before authoring the last comment, create a user ARP the "hard" way using Montage only using MIDI record as I mentioned before.  What makes it hard is the timing of pressing one of the ASSIGN buttons on and off to setup a flash pattern in the arp.

 

Still, I did this to prove it worked OK.    I had ASSIGN 2 flashing to a beat (tempo).

 

I turned on quantize so on/off would align with an 8th note.   But it sure is easier to setup this pattern on an 8th note grid to toggle the ASSIGN 1 (or 2) CC from a value of 0 to 127 having the 127 value occur on the downbeat using a MIDI editor on a PC.  Or you could record mashing the ASSIGN button, save as a MIDI file, then edit this MIDI to align the on/off with the beat.

 

 

thanks Jason for your tricks. It was so that simple. I try the same process for record a pulse on an assignknob but when i want save it as arpeggio, it say no data even I can still play it on the recorder screen and seeing the knob pulsing properly! Any idea what is going on?

Posted by: Daniel

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Posted by: Jason

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I did, before authoring the last comment, create a user ARP the "hard" way using Montage only using MIDI record as I mentioned before.  What makes it hard is the timing of pressing one of the ASSIGN buttons on and off to setup a flash pattern in the arp.

 

Still, I did this to prove it worked OK.    I had ASSIGN 2 flashing to a beat (tempo).

 

I turned on quantize so on/off would align with an 8th note.   But it sure is easier to setup this pattern on an 8th note grid to toggle the ASSIGN 1 (or 2) CC from a value of 0 to 127 having the 127 value occur on the downbeat using a MIDI editor on a PC.  Or you could record mashing the ASSIGN button, save as a MIDI file, then edit this MIDI to align the on/off with the beat.

 

 

thanks Jason for your tricks. It was so that simple. I try the same process for record a pulse on an assignknob but when i want save it as arpeggio, it say no data even I can still play it on the recorder screen and seeing the knob pulsing properly! Any idea what is going on?

 

i record the switches arpeggio for a 4/4 signature, so I have the switch 1 lighting on the first beat and the switch 2 lighting on the 2 3 4 beat. It is cool but the assign switches are quite outside my vision angle. I thought I could use both arpeggio, the user one for assign switch and the preset one for assign knob 1/ 2 but when you engage the part witch support the arpeggio assign knob, the arpeggio assign switch don’t show up, so looks like you can have both on display. The advantage of assign switch arpeggio where that you don’t need to engage the part, it show up at performance level that is not the case for assign switch arpeggio.

Arpeggios have their own category search screens.  You can search for AF1 using the magnifying glass for search and type in "AF1" (or AF2). 

For assignable knob presets, choose the control arp main category filter then the Assign 1/2 sub-category filter.

None of the AF presets flash these buttons.  They just force one or the other on.