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Daniel
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Is there new waveform of strings in the montage M? Violin, cello, viola, ensemble…or is it same wave than in the classic one but maybe using more elements? I am curious.

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Posted : 22/10/2024 7:33 am
 Toby
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43 more 'Strng' category in M Data List

Is there new waveform of strings in the montage M? Violin, cello, viola, ensemble

There are 43 more waveforms with a Main Category of Strng in the Montage M data list doc than in the Montage doc. You will have to look at both sets to try to see if they are in the category you want.

You would have to try to compare the waveform names in both docs since the waveform numbers will be different. And you could check count for each of the 9 'Strng' sub categories to see where the 43 new ones are.

I don't know how you could tell if the waveforms are really the same internally just because they have the same name. 

 

…or is it same wave than in the classic one but maybe using more elements? I am curious.

 

Not sure what you mean by 'using more elements' since waveforms don't have elements. Do you mean are there new string performances?

There are 3427 performances in the Montage M and 2730 in the Montage data list (montagek_en_dl_j0.pdf). If you check the 'Strings' category you will find quite a few more in the M.

 
Posted : 22/10/2024 7:15 pm
Jason
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The 43 new string waveforms are Cinema Strings.   There are demos of the new "cinematic" Performances that feature these strings.  You may be able to get a feel for how they match what you are (or or not) looking for by looking at those.  If I remember there are multiple demos from different presenters because it was on a short list of new stuff to feature.   If you're looking for new solo waveforms -- those aren't available.   I had personally asked for more non-vibrato variations of solo string instruments (primarily violin in order to try to get a better country fiddle sound).  Looking at this tells me these requests haven't been realized as of yet.  At least not 1st party.

 

1015

CinemaStr Vn p St

Strng

Ensem

1016

CinemaStr Vn mf St

Strng

Ensem

1017

CinemaStr Vn f St

Strng

Ensem

1018

CinemaStr Vn Legato p St

Strng

Ensem

1019

CinemaStr Vn Legato mf St

Strng

Ensem

1020

CinemaStr Vn Legato f St

Strng

Ensem

1021

CinemaStr Vn Spic mf St

Strng

Ensem

1022

CinemaStr Vn Spic mf St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1023

CinemaStr Vn Spic f St

Strng

Ensem

1024

CinemaStr Vn Spic f St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1025

CinemaStr Vn Trem St

Strng

Ensem

1026

CinemaStr Va p St

Strng

Ensem

1027

CinemaStr Va mf St

Strng

Ensem

1028

CinemaStr Va f St

Strng

Ensem

1029

CinemaStr Va Legato p St

Strng

Ensem

1030

CinemaStr Va Legato mf St

Strng

Ensem

1031

CinemaStr Va Legato f St

Strng

Ensem

1032

CinemaStr Va Spic mf St

Strng

Ensem

1033

CinemaStr Va Spic mf St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1034

CinemaStr Va Spic f St

Strng

Ensem

1035

CinemaStr Va Spic f St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1036

CinemaStr Va Trem St

Strng

Ensem

1037

CinemaStr Va Trem Legato St

Strng

Ensem

1038

CinemaStr Vc p St

Strng

Ensem

1039

CinemaStr Vc mf St

Strng

Ensem

1040

CinemaStr Vc f St

Strng

Ensem

1041

CinemaStr Vc Legato p St

Strng

Ensem

1042

CinemaStr Vc Legato mf St

Strng

Ensem

1043

CinemaStr Vc Legato f St

Strng

Ensem

1044

CinemaStr Vc Spic mf St

Strng

Ensem

1045

CinemaStr Vc Spic mf St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1046

CinemaStr Vc Spic f St

Strng

Ensem

1047

CinemaStr Vc Spic f St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1048

CinemaStr Vc Trem St

Strng

Ensem

1049

CinemaStr Vc Trem Legato St

Strng

Ensem

1050

CinemaStr Cb mf St

Strng

Ensem

1051

CinemaStr Cb f St

Strng

Ensem

1052

CinemaStr Cb Legato mf St

Strng

Ensem

1053

CinemaStr Cb Legato f St

Strng

Ensem

1054

CinemaStr Cb Spic f St

Strng

Ensem

1055

CinemaStr Cb Spic f St Offset

Strng

Ensem

1056

CinemaStr Cb Spic ff St

Strng

Ensem

1057

CinemaStr Cb Spic ff St Offset

Strng

Ensem

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Posted : 22/10/2024 11:37 pm
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Daniel
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Thank you

 

Montage 7 classic

 
Posted : 25/10/2024 8:07 am
Daniel
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I have listen demo of the cinema strings, it seems to bring some extra color. What I miss is realistic solo strings, it could take advantage of multiple articulation from extended element of a part. It seems that we need to make our own waveforms but as we don’t have access to compression as Yamaha use for they own sample, it looks that we will be quickly limited by the memory. For choir there are only two new performances, I am not sure it use new waveforms.

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Posted : 27/10/2024 11:03 am
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