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M8X - Arpeggio copy/exchange doesn't include Velocity or Gate Time

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 Toby
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The 'Part -> Common -> Arpeggio - Individual' screen (p.283 of the Montage M Operations doc) screen shows the 8 possible sets of arp data for a part and include: Name, Velocity, Gate Time.

However, if you use [SHIFT] + [EDIT] to copy/exchange an arp only the arp itself is copied or exchanged but the velocity and gate time belonging to that arp are NOT.

This requires the user to manually update the velocity and gate time parameter values for BOTH the source and destination arps. If both arps are for the same part the data is on the screen so at least you can try to fix it.

But when an exchange is done to a different part than the part being displayed there is no way to see the velocity and gate time values for the other part without navigating to the screen for the other part and then 'back and forth' to manually update both sets of parameters.

Am I alone in thinking the Velocity and Gate Time values should travel with the arp for a copy/exchange? I know that I always adjust those values for each arp individually when necessary. 

This anomaly is on an M8X so I expect it is also on the M7/M6 models. As for classic Montage/Modx I don't know.

This topic was modified 5 months ago by Toby
 
Posted : 21/10/2024 5:24 pm
Jason
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Makes sense to me that a shortcut would do the most lifting possible and if you really only wanted to swap arpeggio names only then that would be a relatively "easy" manual 2-step for swap and 1-step for copy.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 21/10/2024 6:16 pm
Jason
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Makes sense to me that a shortcut would do the most lifting possible and if you really only wanted to swap arpeggio names only then that would be a relatively "easy" manual 2-step for swap and 1-step for copy.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 21/10/2024 6:17 pm
 Toby
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Makes sense to me that a shortcut would do the most lifting possible and if you really only wanted to swap arpeggio names only then that would be a relatively "easy" manual 2-step for swap and 1-step for copy.

Does it make sense to you to ONLY copy/exchange the name? Aren't any velocity and gate time changes you make to an arp specific for that arp?

 
Posted : 21/10/2024 6:58 pm
Jason
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I was agreeing with you that it makes sense for the Copy/Exchange to do more than just the name - to copy associated parameters - because if you, hypothetically, didn't want everything to be copied then you'd do a simple 1 or 2 step manual operation of changing the name only yourself.   Shortcuts should do as much heavy lifting as possible and it seems like this one comes up "short".

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 21/10/2024 7:16 pm
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