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Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if the Montage has the ability to create mapped chords triggered by one key?

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 3:20 pm
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Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if the Montage has the ability to create mapped chords triggered by one key?

?
The MONTAGE Part can contain 8 Oscillators. Each Oscillator can be tuned to any pitch.
What are you trying to do?

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 3:56 pm
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Mapped chords on a key seems to be such a good idea I am sure Yamaha could have not possibly released Montage to we the musicians without such a terrific feature being available right away after unboxing, no waiting for the first OS update to enjoy it, whatsoever.

Yes, melodies might be nice, many even majestic. A few will be heard along the centuries while crossing the oceans; and even so and even then, some, at times, as they made good the trip towards their very last measure, need support. Otherwise there rises a silent period that will not be happily called the sound of silence, but surely lack of joy, unexpected void, unfulfilled discourse, instead and not by few but most of the attendance.

Probably a simple octave will do. Or a more complex chord. Since you are a keyboardist, you could manage to play a twelve fingered chord had you six fingers on each, going altogether, at once. A pipe organ with their pedals could add some more...But most human beings have ten fingers, and here is why we go back to Montage, coming to our rescue as we plan to use that only one finger you told us for the chord to trigger its sound.

Firstly, be aware there are eight internal parts available.
Each part has nothing but eight elements. So we are meeting a staggering set of sixty four waves, all at our disposal.
Yes, sixty four pianos, or sixty four flutes, or a mixture of sixty four different musical instruments. Well, some noise can also be placed there, but ...

Should we happen to inadvertently leave or otherwise fix on purpose their keyboard ranges to the very same spot, we will have all those waves playing as we press a single key.
Since that seems too much to the many, we have some tools ready to avoid the mess previously attained.
Velocity is one of them. Let these waves here sound only if their velocities are below this number I dial here, and those other waves come into play if their velocities do go over the number I put there.
Delay could also be a factor. These two waves only play after 350 units have elapsed, and those ones after 1000.
Add to this the ability to allow some waves to be heard only after key released and we have arrived to the moment a series of sounds are perfectly mapped, in keyboard range and in time.

Now we need to fix the pitch. You play key number 18 on the Montage 8 you are the proud owner of and D1 (for Yamaha), D2 (for Roland) will trigger the waves we talk about before, but you will not necessarily have to hear 73.42 Herz provided you are tuned at 440 for A3 (key #49).
No, no need, since you can fix another pitch by moving up or down some cents, some steps, even octaves.

So if you are setting that key, D1, to tell some waves should play C1, others to play E1, others to play G1, others to play C0 and others to play C-1, you have arrived at the comfort of both, reaching that D1 because it was easier than C1, and hearing a very basic C major chord: CEG with some bass support added.

And that is nothing more than a series of simple basic manoeuvres with the simplicity of the very first tools Montage is proud of, since we have left behind filters and the likes.

Montage: here nothing is fixed. Make it to suit your very own.

The map, your very own map, arising from every single key you press or release, can be extended as wide in latitude and longitude as you feel like every single day, here, now and then as you slowly go growing your knowledge playing this outstanding keyboard.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 1:28 am
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Yes, melodies might be nice, many even majestic.A few will be heard along the centuries while crossing the oceans; and even so and even then, some, at times, as they made good the trip towards their very last measure, need support. Otherwise there rises a silent period that will not be happily called the sound of silence, but surely lack of joy, unexpected void, unfulfilled discourse, instead and not by few but most of the attendance.

Earth to Fernando… what are you talking about? lol

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 1:43 am
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Montage to Ground control...
Purcell, Haendel, Bach, Frank, Rebel, Listz and Ravel playing in a loop up here...
Over...

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 2:01 am
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Transmitting blind....
Transmitting blind....
Transmitting blind....

Montage to Ground control...
Purcell, Haendel, Bach, Frank, Rebel, Listz and Ravel playing in a loop up here...
Over...

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 2:05 am
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Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if the Montage has the ability to create mapped chords triggered by one key?

?
The MONTAGE Part can contain 8 Oscillators. Each Oscillator can be tuned to any pitch.
What are you trying to do?

Like I said, I'm wondering it mapped chords are possible, like the Chord Trigger in MainStage, if you're familiar with that.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 10:29 am
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Yes, melodies might be nice, many even majestic.A few will be heard along the centuries while crossing the oceans; and even so and even then, some, at times, as they made good the trip towards their very last measure, need support. Otherwise there rises a silent period that will not be happily called the sound of silence, but surely lack of joy, unexpected void, unfulfilled discourse, instead and not by few but most of the attendance.

Earth to Fernando… what are you talking about? lol

I have no idea.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 10:30 am
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The MONTAGE Part can contain 8 Oscillators. Each Oscillator can be tuned to any pitch. Find the Performance “Chordz” as an example.

No, I don’t know MainStage, but you can certainly use MONTAGE with MainStage.

What you can do:

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 10:38 am
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Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if the Montage has the ability to create mapped chords triggered by one key?

Same place you'll find the screen brightness adjustments, and the UNDO button.

Not there.

Huge oversight of design.

Imagine being able to punt out chords with the left hand, inside different ranges, on different parts, driving different arpeggios.

We can only imagine. Because it's not there. On a "LIVE" focused instrument.

Never mind.

Maybe in the next update they'll add a chord-record feature.

And, in the next, next update, a means to trigger their playback.

And a step recorder for arpeggios, so that we could make chord sequences that trigger from a single key tap.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 12:23 pm
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_There are several Undo buttons and methods throughout the operating system; perhaps you should learn your instrument. We’d be happy to help.
_You can control different Parts with different arpeggios, different ranges; perhaps you should learn your instrument. We’d be happy to help.
_Looking for chord recognition? The arpeggios recognize chords… if you don’t know what chord you played, perhaps an Arranger is more your cup of tea, it will tell you what chord you played even if YOU don’t know. Perhaps you bought the wrong instrument.
_Step recorder is provided in Cubase, perhaps you should install it and find out how easy it is to import your stepped data into the MONTAGE to create your own Arpeggios. We’d be happy to help.

Never mind.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 12:31 pm
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Perhaps you should learn to understand, acknowledge and empathise with users over the many obvious shortcomings of YOUR instrument's design.

It might help you relate better with YOUR users, and quieten inner voices, lower your blood pressure and lift your mood.

Defending oversights and obvious shortcomings doesn't help anyone, ever. They are what they are.

We have to live with them and/or work around them, every day.

Pointing them out to users isn't heresy. It's a help, as it stops them wondering "where's obvious feature ABC?"

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 10:41 am
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And straw manning like "looking for chord recognition"... that stuff's ridiculous.

I don't know how a grown man devolves to doing that kind of bullshit.

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 10:43 am
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Defending oversights and obvious shortcomings doesn't help anyone, ever.

Neither does pointless bitching and constant insults.

I don't know how a grown man devolves to doing that kind of bullshit.

Indeed.

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 1:00 pm
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@Dragos

Five straw men in 7 words.

You win.

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 3:40 pm
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