Is that copied from an official V2.00 'New features' from Yamaha?

Did they add new CFX 'waveforms'?  Or just new CFX 'Performances' using existing preset waveforms?

Also, didn't they add new functionality for viewing Organ sliders/drawbars in V2.00, as well as FM-X lights that quickly distinguish Carrier from Modulator operators..?

The zip file download is 3.8GB and the OS file is just under the 4GB limit. It took just over 40 minutes to complete the update.

There appears to be NO new documentation or supplementary doc at all that describes the new features.

There is a new ESP manual but nothing in it that lists any new features.

NONE of the other PDF documents have been changed - I downloaded them all and did a byte compare with what I had before and there were no differences at all.

As far as I can tell the online HTML manual hasn't changed either - I could find no mention of 'shimmer'. But that doc is hard to search so I might have missed it.

Is that copied from an official V2.00 'New features' from Yamaha?

It is the same as what is in the readme file in the update zip.

Did they add new CFX 'waveforms'? Or just new CFX 'Performances' using existing preset waveforms?

Yes - the last entry in the data list doc is '7620 FX Trendy 173 St S.EFX SE'.

Using category search to replace a waveform, clearing all the filters and sorting by date shows the last entry is 7635 so it looks like they added 15 new waveforms. They might have replaced existing waveforms with updated versions.

CFX 2022 v01, v02, v03, v04, v05, v06, v07, v08

CFX 2022 KeyOff

CP80 Stage 1, CP80 Stage 2, CP80 Stage 3, CP80 Stage 4, CP80 Stage 5, CP80 Stage KeyOff

Also, didn't they add new functionality for viewing Organ sliders/drawbars in V2.00,

Those show up whenever you reverse the sliders for a part.

as well as FM-X lights that quickly distinguish Carrier from Modulator operators..?

The slider lights for the entire slider path are bright red for modulators. For carriers the path is dim red with the extreme most bar bright red.

Shimmer reverb is a system effect - can't be found for insert effects.

I can't find ANY improvements as far as extended elements go. Blake briefly referred to some improvements but I haven't found anything yet.

The total lack of ANY documentation about new features is disappointing. I will keep checking daily since they have to know that 'something' is needed to point people in the right direction.

Haven't checked out any MIDI 2 stuff yet.

I can't find ANY improvements as far as extended elements go. Blake briefly referred to some improvements but I haven't found anything yet.

Found a minor enhancement.

1. load the CFX Concert performance - it has 18 elements

2. select 'EL/OP/OSC' level with the button left of the sliders - the sliders will now represent 8 elements in groups of 8

3. edit part 1 and use the 'Elem' dropdown to display the choices 'Common, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

4. with the dropdown showing slowing rotate the data dial from down the list until you reach 8

5. watch the slider lights while you rotate the data dial to element 9

6. you should see the slider lights change for elements 9, 10 and 11

7. keep watching the lights while you rotate the data dial to element 17

8. you should see a small change in the lights for element 18 and for elements 19 - 24 all lights will go out

except the bottom one

9. the display and direction of the lights will be in the other direction if you set the part's slider direction to 'reverse'

For the group of 8 elements selected for slider operation you can also mute and solo any of them.

That is a BIG change - before there was no way at all to mute or solo an extended element. Now you can EASILY test a new element you are adding.

Oops! Forgot to mention the rather large downside to the added mute/solo stuff. I haven't found any way in testing to tell if an element has been set to 'mute' or 'solo'. So if you forget I don't know how you are supposed to find the ones set to 'mute'.

And you can set more than one element to 'solo' but only the last one you set actually solos. If you then turn 'solo' off for that one one of the previous ones will start soloing again.

It is going to be rather confusing until that gets straightened out.

More oops - ignore the last reply since I can't edit or delete it.

When the mute (or solo) button is flashing purple you can then

1. press the shift button

2. no light on means that element is NOT active - you can set the element switch to ON to make it active

3. BRIGHT yellow means the element is active but is NOT being muted (or soloed if solo is the purple button blinking)

4. DIM yellow means the element is active but IS being muted (or soloed if solo is the purple button blinking)

5. selecting ANY element for SOLO will turn off the previous element being soloed - I missed that somehow but you can NOT

select 'groups' of elements to solo together

Bring up the element dropdown, hold the shift button down and you can use the data dial to quickly cycle through the elements to identify which ones are active or have been muted.

Kudos to the Yamaha team for including that - my apologies for having missed it.

On schedule - which is great.   The first MIDI 2.0 information is interesting.   MIDI-CI isn't here yet which would help make software integration more plug-and-play but it's a work in progress.  Guess we'll see how far MIDI 2.0 gets developed in the future.  I know the cards have already been tipped that this firmware version is not the end of MIDI 2.0 features.

Continued focus on ESP is good to see.  With cards tipped that there's more to come there too.

I'm guessing we'll see a deeper dive soon (videos, tutorials).

Looking forward to others spotting more features that haven't been brought forward yet.  

A big change in compressed (zip) data size in going from firmware v1.11, 1.20, 1.21, and 1.22 all at 76MB to 3.6GB for 2.0.   It's been mentioned before in this thread.  Not a bad thing.

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On schedule - which is great.   The first MIDI 2.0 information is interesting.   MIDI-CI isn't here yet which would help make software integration more plug-and-play but it's a work in progress.  Guess we'll see how far MIDI 2.0 gets developed in the future.  I know the cards have already been tipped that this firmware version is not the end of MIDI 2.0 features.

 

Continued focus on ESP is good to see.  With cards tipped that there's more to come there too.

 

I'm guessing we'll see a deeper dive soon (videos, tutorials).

 

Looking forward to others spotting more features that haven't been brought forward yet.  

 

A big change in compressed (zip) data size in going from firmware v1.11, 1.20, 1.21, and 1.22 all at 76MB to 3.6GB for 2.0.   It's been mentioned before in this thread.  Not a bad thing.

 

There's now a new MIDI 2.0 channel in addition to the existing four MIDI channels in v1.x.

How does that Carrier/Modulator indication work if say you have everything set at 0 level?  It seems that at level 0 carriers and modulators would look the same so you'd have to slide them up to reveal if the bars below the top indicator go dim or not.  Maybe the difference is easier to spot in person?  Seems like a more obvious color difference for the top bar (or just the entire light column a different color) would help identify carriers more readily even when at level 0.   It's hard to tell without the keyboard - maybe I've assessed it wrong.

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Yes - the last entry in the data list doc is '7620 FX Trendy 173 St S.EFX SE'.

Using category search to replace a waveform, clearing all the filters and sorting by date shows the last entry is 7635 so it looks like they added 15 new waveforms. They might have replaced existing waveforms with updated versions.

CFX 2022 v01, v02, v03, v04, v05, v06, v07, v08

CFX 2022 KeyOff

Interesting...If so, I wonder why and what the difference there is from the previous CFX waveforms.  The CFX up until this new update has had 9 waveforms + the keyoff one.  This new one appears to only have 8 waveforms + keyoff.  Hopefully Blake or someone in a future video can provide more detail..!?

There's now a new MIDI 2.0 channel in addition to the existing four MIDI channels in v1.x.

Nice find - but wouldn't you need an updated Steinberg driver to use that channel? Or is that something only the DAW needs to know about?

Just checked and there is no updated Steinberg driver on the Yamaha download site.

How does that Carrier/Modulator indication work if say you have everything set at 0 level?

Just checked - they all look the same as you surmised. I don't see any way to tell them apart if they are all at minimum

This new one appears to only have 8 waveforms + keyoff.

Double checked - there are only 8 new ones. That raises some more questions in my mind.

1. Why only 8

2. Why do NONE of the new ones have 'St' in the name whereas all of the 10 old ones did.

3. Is there some reason to NOT sample the new ones in stereo given that CFX2 is being touted as being so much better?

The new CFX2 perf has 1 part and 17 elements. Elements 1-8 use v01 - v08 as do elements 9-16 so they are two sets of the same 8 waveforms. Element 17 uses the KeyOff waveform.

The CFX Concert has 1 part and 18 elements. Elements 1-9 use 'v01 St - v09 St' Elements 10-17 use 'v02 St - v09 St' and element 18 uses the KeyOff St waveform. So 1 set of 9 elements and the second set using only 8.

The INIT Normal (AWM2) has one active element that uses 'CFX v06 St' and the other 7 elements (all OFF but you can examine them) all use 'CFX v01 - so element 1 was likely set to v06 from v01 on purpose.

Panning far left only produces left channel sound and far right only produces right channel sound to my ears.

Using CFX 2022 V06 gives the same results but I'm not sure that reveals anything about the type of sample.