For anyone who actually "understands" exactly what he did - feel free to chime in, lol 🙂

It looks like he got a plugable – USB 2.0 7-Port Hub with Charging and a plugable – Display Link – USB 2.0 Display Adapter.

Does he need both the USB to monitor from the Hub AND the USB to the Display Link and then to the Monitor...?

Hello G - yes, you do. Otherwise you lose your USB back-up stick if you plug the video adapter into Montage. I use an Amazone Basics 7 port USB2.0 powered hub (MUST be USB 2.0 as Montage can't handle USB3.0) - and a StarTech USB to VGA video adapter (I think it's a USB/VGAPRO2) - and a Dell S2240T touch screen monitor. It is usually necessary to switch the Montage on and off a couple of times before the monitor catches on - no idea why - and then it all works perfectly. I've had mine running for about 6 months now, and I bless the day - it's a big selling point, but Yamaha choose to ignore it. Seems more a happy accident than a deliberate intent. I don't mind ...

I would think If Yamaha would allow access to the USB to Device Using an iPad as an external touch screen probably can add it to a firmware update to support feature plus IOS app.

I like that idea Harold! Hopefully Yamaha will do that one

I'm actually searching for a small portable touch screen monitor to put on my music sheet stand. I made some tries with two different 10' lcd touch monitors and two different external video cards (ordered from Amazon) and I encountered some problems.

The monitors were:

1 - Makibes 10.1" 1024 x 600 LCD HDMI

2 - MageDok 11.6 "IPS 1080P HD Touchscreen Monitor Display LCD

The external graphic cards were:

1 - StarTech USB2VGAE3

2 - TNP Products external graphic card from USB to VGA/DVI/HDMI

These were the combinations and the results:

1 - touch screen 1 + graphic card 1 = black screen;

2 - touch screen 1 + graphic card 2 = I was able to replicate perfectly Montage' screen, even powering up the touch screen after Montage, but I wasn't able to use the touch functions and I had a weird behaviour on my Montage when I touched the screen (all the buttons' lights went off except for the category search button's light);

3 - touchscreen 2 + graphic card 1 = green screen;

4 - touchscreen 1 + graphic card 2 = green screen;

So I sent them back to Amazon and I'm still searching for an alternative to the Dell S2240T (I don't want to buy a monitor so big).

Yes I'd like to see direct to external touch screen support as well as support for BOTH android tablets and "i"stuff

I've also advocated for better tablet integration (including Android, because - selfishly - that's what I have).

The touchscreen protocol is going to be more difficult to figure out. It's not something that is advertised by most touchscreens out there. I had evaluated a screen that I thought was close - but it ended being "no cigar".

I suppose if enough combinations are tried - eventually you can land on something that will work.

According to the net, the Dell S2240T has the following touchscreen specs:

Source: https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/vstudio/en-US/a129d36c-5873-44a6-992f-acc2c45f02a1/rp3-hid-device-touch-usb-monitor-problem?forum=WindowsIoT

Device Info: VID 0408 PID 3025, IoT default app says HID-TQH-FS named device.

I'm not sure how this was identified. There's a guide here maybe someone can follow (who has a Dell S2240T) and give better information:

https://www.touch-base.com/documentation/Identifying%20touch%20screen%20controllers.htm

VID 0408 is registered to Quanta Computer, Inc (source: http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids )

The same source does not show the PID of 3025.

Another source shows the S2240T as a different USB pair:

2149 2122 Advanced Silicon CoolTouch(CTS122)

The issue with the lights going wacky on Montage was likely due to injecting "garbage" into the serial stream Montage is looking at for gestures -- and how garbage can lead to unpredictable results. Since the touch-screen is an internal device and no external touchscreen is supported - there may not be checks and balances to protect from "garbage" which can "corrupt" Montage.

Wishing and hoping... If you connect the MONTAGE to an external touchscreen, the external touchscreen should work... but it is NOT a supported protocol... too many variables.

Neither is it just a 'happy accident', we make many keyboards that output lyrics and score to external screens (i.e., Arranger Workstation, for example do the group Karaoke follow-the-bouncing-lyric-thing) but in the MONTAGE this (external screen-thing) is an unsupported function. Meaning Yamaha is not going to support/maintain the feature if/when any changes in the protocol that make this work occur - we have no control over the connection standards - which do change (any one with a new Mac: how many adapters do you have hanging out the side of your computer just to connect your, now legacy, USB stuff?). Some tablets have abandoned USB connections entirely. And there maybe too many combinations of items to test and maintain, properly...

The MONTAGEs, and synthesizers like it, are likely to remain in the hands of the musicians who purchase them for more than 8-10 years on average... just FYI... (those of you still owning a DX7, just a time-check - it's now 35 years!!!)

Currently you can output the Montage screen directly to your computer, in real time (not just to a MONITOR or touchscreen MONITOR now, I mean directly to your computer!)... Useful for capturing/recording and making instructional videos... BUT... (and you know, it is always a big ole butt): it is quite an expensive undertaking (in the range of $400-$600) to place it real time on your computer screen. I know of no such contraption(s) that will transfer it to a iPad or Android tablet, (at this time, or what that might cost... nor am I looking for one)... it’s a worthy dream though...

Question: would you pay an additional $500 (USD) simply to see your synth's screen on your computer?
Placing the MONTAGE screen on a Monitor screen is not quite that expensive (true), but it is a fact that not every converter and monitor combination works... that testing can be time consuming and therefore, costly... on the manufacturer side... and difficult to support versus ROI (the overall benefit).
Bless you if you have unlimited money for gear... but if you have been a fan of synthesizers for as long as I have, (and many of you have) you know that the price points of synths remain frightfully low (by comparison to everything else). So adding a function like this has to be weighed carefully by those tasked with bringing it to market.

Just to pump up the conversation about $$ costs: back in 1971 I remember trying to decide to by a mono synth (MiniMoog) or get a car!
MiniMoog was $1495 (USD) back in 71 (then you needed a sound system), a new Volkswagen Beetle was $1995 (USD).
The 70's and 80's you had top-of-the-line synthesizers that were in excess of $100,000 (Fairlights, SynClaviers, big modular rigs etc.,etc)
The Yamaha CS80s were not cheap, the Yamaha GX1 was not only the heaviest thing ever made it was off the chart expensive (60 thousand dollars)... I spent 9 months rent on my first Fender/Rhodes Suitcase Seventy-three back in 1970 (that gives some perspective on real world sacrifice).
No company would venture into those price points today.. (unfortunately for us musicians).

Manufacturers of synthesizers quickly recognize that as the economy changes, the money musicians get paid either stays the same, (or can actually go down... when you factor in inflation, trends and the value of today's dollars). So in general, we are in a holding pattern, waiting for items to get cheap enough to be affordable/supportable by the target audience. Could it be a supported feature? - sure, I suppose.
Would it add to the base price of the instrument? I'm pretty sure it would.

FunFacts: The Yamaha GX1 ($60,000) was made as a proof of concept Electone Organ (estimated in today's dollars that'd be over $300,000) yikes! And not portable... it weighed more than 2000 pounds (that's more than 950kg for you metric folks)!!! Yikes!!!!
The CS80 (believe it or not) was the cost-down/portable version, lol.

So today, advocating for features like exporting to external monitor screens, or to a computer for capture, means that they then need to be supported in the longterm, which unfortunately raises the price for everyone...even those who opt not to connect to it and use it. If it were something that was more controllable or stable - perhaps. but imagine you DID buy the MONTAGE based on the fact that you can output the screen to your computer or an external monitor screen... and suddenly the items that convert the signal to HDMI or VGA disappear from the market, or quadruple in price. (It has happened --- remember when the Floppy DiskDrive disappeared, the "SmartMedia era" - at first they were crazy expensive, then when the digital camera market got large enough, the price came way down (lucky for us musicians)... but then the SmartPHONE became a better camera and the SmartMedia era was OVER in a snap... and the prices of SmartMedia went back to being absurd.

Fortunately, in that transition period (circa Motif ES - S90 ES era), two means of storage were provided on the synths, and the USB method stuck around (but as you know, that is now morphing into another generation...) Original Motif had SCSI and SmartMedia, yikes!

As to this being a “selling feature”. The Selling Feature is the fact that MONTAGE has a built-in large touchscreen! How's that!?! (supportable).
If it only had a couple of adapters and special cabling that you had to buy and an external Monitor that worked, and it did not have a large touchscreen, would it still be a selling feature? I think it falls into the “wouldn’t it be cool if...” Category of requests.

As a market group, musicians are a small, rather niche market, with not a lot of market sway (otherwise computers would have more standard connectors for music and would come with low latency drivers)... That is reality. I'm not putting us down, just having looked over the fence to other industry’s backyards, we (musicians) don't have the market size to wield influence on all the support technologies we have to rely upon... (anyone remember having to pay $125 for like 32 or 64K proprietary RAM cartridges for your DX7?)

External screen, It's an Easter Egg... that my own view of it from where I sit... when you see something cool, not listed among the promoted feature/benefit specs, you can bet there is some sort of thought process behind it.

Hello! Supported or not, the Dell S2240T touchscreen has worked perfectly for me for 18 months now. The Montage is unusable without it so far as I'm concerned. When I bought the Montage I assumed the screen tilted, like the Tyros. I got that wrong, but don't regret buying it for one second. It's a fabulous, if flawed, machine. I fancy a Genos, which has an even bigger screen than Montage - but it doesn't tilt and the Genos doesn't support an external monitor. End of story. My ancient Tyros 3 fills the 'music' gap on the few occasions I'm in that mode - not even a touch screen and it doesn't support an external monitor - but it does tilt! I don't need to crane or crouch, it doesn't reflect overhead lights, and the buttons are more reliable than a small touch screen. As to Yamaha's indifference to external monitors, well, if you stumble across a gold mine, you don't just shrug and walk away, I'd have thought.

I ended up with two brand new HP NL571AA USB Graphics Adapters that work perfectly with the Montage.

They output DVI-D and VGA. A cheap DVI-HDMI adapter also works.

Thanks for the update. I see these as under $6USD on ebay currently (used). Not a bad price for something that works. New prices vary considerably for this. Average seems to be $50USD.

The used ones on eBay for $5.50 are a great option for Americans (they only ship to the USA).

Wishing and hoping... If you connect the MONTAGE to an external touchscreen, the external touchscreen should work... but it is NOT a supported protocol... too many variables.

Neither is it just a 'happy accident', we make many keyboards that output lyrics and score to external screens (i.e., Arranger Workstation, for example do the group Karaoke follow-the-bouncing-lyric-thing) but in the MONTAGE this (external screen-thing) is an unsupported function. Meaning Yamaha is not going to support/maintain the feature if/when any changes in the protocol that make this work occur - we have no control over the connection standards - which do change (any one with a new Mac: how many adapters do you have hanging out the side of your computer just to connect your, now legacy, USB stuff?). Some tablets have abandoned USB connections entirely. And there maybe too many combinations of items to test and maintain, properly...

The MONTAGEs, and synthesizers like it, are likely to remain in the hands of the musicians who purchase them for more than 8-10 years on average... just FYI... (those of you still owning a DX7, just a time-check - it's now 35 years!!!)

Currently you can output the Montage screen directly to your computer, in real time (not just to a MONITOR or touchscreen MONITOR now, I mean directly to your computer!)... Useful for capturing/recording and making instructional videos... BUT... (and you know, it is always a big ole butt): it is quite an expensive undertaking (in the range of $400-$600) to place it real time on your computer screen. I know of no such contraption(s) that will transfer it to a iPad or Android tablet, (at this time, or what that might cost... nor am I looking for one)... it’s a worthy dream though...

Question: would you pay an additional $500 (USD) simply to see your synth's screen on your computer?
Placing the MONTAGE screen on a Monitor screen is not quite that expensive (true), but it is a fact that not every converter and monitor combination works... that testing can be time consuming and therefore, costly... on the manufacturer side... and difficult to support versus ROI (the overall benefit).
Bless you if you have unlimited money for gear... but if you have been a fan of synthesizers for as long as I have, (and many of you have) you know that the price points of synths remain frightfully low (by comparison to everything else). So adding a function like this has to be weighed carefully by those tasked with bringing it to market.

Just to pump up the conversation about $$ costs: back in 1971 I remember trying to decide to by a mono synth (MiniMoog) or get a car!
MiniMoog was $1495 (USD) back in 71 (then you needed a sound system), a new Volkswagen Beetle was $1995 (USD).
The 70's and 80's you had top-of-the-line synthesizers that were in excess of $100,000 (Fairlights, SynClaviers, big modular rigs etc.,etc)
The Yamaha CS80s were not cheap, the Yamaha GX1 was not only the heaviest thing ever made it was off the chart expensive (60 thousand dollars)... I spent 9 months rent on my first Fender/Rhodes Suitcase Seventy-three back in 1970 (that gives some perspective on real world sacrifice).
No company would venture into those price points today.. (unfortunately for us musicians).

Manufacturers of synthesizers quickly recognize that as the economy changes, the money musicians get paid either stays the same, (or can actually go down... when you factor in inflation, trends and the value of today's dollars). So in general, we are in a holding pattern, waiting for items to get cheap enough to be affordable/supportable by the target audience. Could it be a supported feature? - sure, I suppose.
Would it add to the base price of the instrument? I'm pretty sure it would.

FunFacts: The Yamaha GX1 ($60,000) was made as a proof of concept Electone Organ (estimated in today's dollars that'd be over $300,000) yikes! And not portable... it weighed more than 2000 pounds (that's more than 950kg for you metric folks)!!! Yikes!!!!
The CS80 (believe it or not) was the cost-down/portable version, lol.

So today, advocating for features like exporting to external monitor screens, or to a computer for capture, means that they then need to be supported in the longterm, which unfortunately raises the price for everyone...even those who opt not to connect to it and use it. If it were something that was more controllable or stable - perhaps. but imagine you DID buy the MONTAGE based on the fact that you can output the screen to your computer or an external monitor screen... and suddenly the items that convert the signal to HDMI or VGA disappear from the market, or quadruple in price. (It has happened --- remember when the Floppy DiskDrive disappeared, the "SmartMedia era" - at first they were crazy expensive, then when the digital camera market got large enough, the price came way down (lucky for us musicians)... but then the SmartPHONE became a better camera and the SmartMedia era was OVER in a snap... and the prices of SmartMedia went back to being absurd.

Fortunately, in that transition period (circa Motif ES - S90 ES era), two means of storage were provided on the synths, and the USB method stuck around (but as you know, that is now morphing into another generation...) Original Motif had SCSI and SmartMedia, yikes!

As to this being a “selling feature”. The Selling Feature is the fact that MONTAGE has a built-in large touchscreen! How's that!?! (supportable).
If it only had a couple of adapters and special cabling that you had to buy and an external Monitor that worked, and it did not have a large touchscreen, would it still be a selling feature? I think it falls into the “wouldn’t it be cool if...” Category of requests.

As a market group, musicians are a small, rather niche market, with not a lot of market sway (otherwise computers would have more standard connectors for music and would come with low latency drivers)... That is reality. I'm not putting us down, just having looked over the fence to other industry’s backyards, we (musicians) don't have the market size to wield influence on all the support technologies we have to rely upon... (anyone remember having to pay $125 for like 32 or 64K proprietary RAM cartridges for your DX7?)

External screen, It's an Easter Egg... that my own view of it from where I sit... when you see something cool, not listed among the promoted feature/benefit specs, you can bet there is some sort of thought process behind it.

My need was for documentation...just a simple screen capture that I can paste into a word document...or a power point. Yamaha documentation is sub-awful. I constantly having to annotate it for all the instruments I own. I hate "marketing driven" documentation.

@todd - you do know you can make screenshots in the Montage, right?

Press the "A/D Input On/OFF" switch + [SOLO] Page switch (the lower SOLO switch on the far right, not the upper one)

https://www.yamahasynth.com/ask-a-question/question-about-screenshots-on-the-montage