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Rob
 Rob
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Hello,
Is it possible to start/stop a song in songmode with a control pedal?
And if its possible....how can i edit this?
Thanks for answering.
Rob

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 7:18 am
Bad Mister
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There is no "Song Mode" but we assume you are talking about the [PLAY/REC] function.

In [UTILITY]
Touch "Settings" > "MIDI I/O"
Set the Foot Switch = Start/Stop
Connect a momentary pedal FC4/5 to the Foot Switch jack

 
Posted : 24/08/2017 9:23 am
Rob
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Hello,
Thanks! It worked.......with midi. But with AUDIO files?

 
Posted : 03/10/2017 8:35 am
Bad Mister
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Yes, with MIDI. The Stop/Start commands are MIDI commands. It wouldn't have little to do with streaming audio from a USB stick. For that you will need to physically press the [>] Play button... and Stop button.

 
Posted : 03/10/2017 6:56 pm
Rob
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So....i have a audio recording on WAV.....from a USB......LOAD.....but it would be nice to start playing this recording with a foot pedal. That is not possible?
And it is also not possible to set the exact tempo click with the blinking green LED playing a audio file (as it is possible with MIDI)? So you can see the tempo (blinking)....thats possible with MIDI files but i need it with audio playing also.
It would be great if this issue is solved in a next software update.
I use the montage on stage for musical and theatre perfomings.....there is this wish a very nice thing to use!
Help me : )

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 6:51 pm
Bad Mister
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Rob,
That is not likely to happen, as the protocol for streaming of audio from an external USB drive is not subject to the same rules as data recorded internally to the MONTAGE as MIDI data. But just because something does not happen the way you first think about it doesn’t mean that it is not possible. There simply maybe a different way to accomplish your goal.

Here’s how it works:
When you record your .wav using the MONTAGE Audio Recorder, you can use the click, the count-in, and reference the internal clock while recording your audio wave. This will allow you to use it within the Synth engine as a tempo specific Waveform.

The result of recording while using the internal count/click will be a .wav File that you can then LOAD to the MONTAGE Synth engine as an AWM2 Waveform

Placing the .wav into the MONTAGE as a New Waveform will allow you to trigger its playback using a MIDI Note-on event.
Loading the Wav will let you place it on a KEY (for example, within a Drum Kit); then using a MIDI event you can trigger playback.

Now it can be started and stopped with a Foot Switch, it will play in tempo with the MONTAGE clock... because you set the clock and tempo when you initially recorded the data. You can now trigger playback of the Waveform using the MIDI Play/Rec function.

 
Posted : 07/10/2017 2:52 am
Jason
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Past threads covering playback of audio files have always suggested mapping the audio files to keyboard keys as this allows one to subject the audio files to key-on trigger rules, arps, etc.

The recorder is kind of like putting a cassette recorder/player inside Montage. Something that is a blunt tool - but gets the job done for certain things.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 07/10/2017 6:30 am
Bad Mister
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The Play/Rec feature in the MONTAGE is much much more than a “blunt tooll” or a “cassette” (which offers no real chance to export and continue your work... without significant loss in quality) it is more like a method to capture yourself interacting with the MONTAGE’s Motion Control Synth Engine as either MIDI data or as stereo Audio data. If you reference MONTAGE’s clock and tempo during your record, the result can be exported in a very useful fashion to your favorite DAW where you can add to or continue work on your composition/creation.

MIDI recording can literally be drag n dropped from the MONTAGE [Utility] > “Contents” > “Data Utility” > SONG folder into your DAW via the USB connection using MONTAGE CONNECT.
AUDIO recordings can be shuttled over to your computer by removing the USB stick from the MONTAGE and connecting it to your computer, you can then drag n drop the stereo .wav into an open Project in your favorite DAW.

The concept was to make it extremely easy to faithfully capture your performance gestures without having to be a MIDI/Audio Computer Setup Jedi Knight.

Because most users have never recorded multiple streams of MIDI data simultaneously to computer, the On-Board MIDI Recorder makes creating and documenting your own MONTAGE creations as simple as press n play. Capturing Audio means you can also capture data that leaves no MIDI footprint.

Given the amount of “noise” here on the forum early on, you can tell most people had no idea what MONTAGE did/does that is different. They have probably now a much better idea.

Given that most DAWs are designed for the one-track-at-a-time recording paradigm, and that you must use one setup to record direct play and another setup to record arpeggios (because most DAW can record one or the other, not both simultaneously) and given that that MONTAGE routinely challenges your external DAW recorder with both things happening simultaneously... The on-board makes capturing every nuance as simple as press Rec, press Play, perform.

It provides a method to accurate capture a MONTAGE Performance - which, as you probably know by now, can involve multiple Parts where Control data is interpreted by each Part according to how you’ve setup the synth. MIDI can capture what you do with MONTAGE controllers, Audio recording is additionally added as a method to capture external devices that maybe interacting with the Motion Control engine... via the A/D Input (Vocals, Vocoder, Side Chain Modulation Source, Tempo Source, etc., etc.,)

Many have (unfortunately) dismissed the Play/Rec feature of the MONTAGE before gaining a full understanding of its purpose. I recently received an email from a user who, after struggling for months to setup and record what they created in the Synth to their DAW (trying desperately to live up to the Midi Setup Merit Badge that they felt they earned over 30 years of MIDI recording), finally took my advice to simply record it to the internal recorder and then move the data to the DAW (drag n drop). They couldn’t believe how easy it was... some things learned are difficult to let go of some times.

And significantly, because editing data generated by a MONTAGE Performance is often more about editing the synth engine (before the recorder) than it is about editing or drawing controllers (after the fact); This method of “jump starting” your recording project makes so much sense when using Multi Part, Multi Instrument Performances.

It is not designed to record one-track-at-a-time, it’s designed to capture ‘all’ (like a stereo cassette) but with the significant advantages of sounding way better than a cassette, and providing the separate MIDI streams or stereo Audio data of your performing in a tempo accurate form so that you can continue to build on your creation by exporting the data as a .mid or .wav File. Without significantly degrading the sound (like an early 1980s cassette player).

 
Posted : 07/10/2017 11:35 am
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