I recently add a third expression pedal via midi, as a classical set up, I have already one pedal controlling volume and the second one controlling the Superknob. But I hadn’t plan that an expression pedal, apart from controlling the volume or the SK can control only parameters of one part depending of the midi channel you use. That’s the limitation, tell me if I am wrong.
I was dreaming to have a second “virtual” super knobs with this third pedal but that is not possible. It will have been useful that Yamaha implements a virtual SK for expression pedal. Why? One SK is not enough for you, you want two SK? the right foot that trigger the volume pedal have plenty of free time during the play, so why not ? crossing two superknobs with the feet could open exiting perspective, I think.
Montage 7 classic
Not everything has a CC. But the 8 assignable knobs do. To make use of this, de-link one of the assignable knobs from super knob so you can use it independently and then assign your 3rd expression pedal to the de-linked assignable knob. I believe the CC range default are 17-24 although I could be off going by memory. Check either the data list or look at your settings for the CC numbers. They can be programmed differently from the defaults on a per Performance basis if you want. You'd be looking at the Common/Audio settings (not Part settings).
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Excellent! Basically add the common assign knobs to the controller matrix as destinations for other high-level controllers.
I recently add a third expression pedal
If you can select 1 of 8 common knobs as a 'source' for multiple destinations why not be able to select a common knob as a destination for a high level controller?
If you can 'unlink' a common knob from the superknob why not be able to then 'link' it to another high-level controller?
That could also make it more useful when using smart morph. Currently the superknob is intimately connected to morphing. But if you could unlink common knobs from the super knob and assign them instead to another controller you could have the best of both kinds of automated action.
Currently when you unlink a common knob you have to manually manipulate the knob to make it do what it is programmed for. The issue there is that the physical knob isn't always a common knob. Sometimes it is a part knob or an element/operator knob.
There could be other things to consider. The common knobs have a CC associated with them that normally gets sent as MIDI if you manually manipulate the knob. That isn't the case when a knob is acting as a part or element/operator knob.
I think you misunderstood. A midi expression pedal can send only in one channel, there is no Omni mode. So you will be able to controlling only one part, the part witch have the same channel than you pedal, I don’t think there is a turn around, except to find a midi pedal that can send in Omni mode, I doubt it exist or a converter midi box, I don’t find it. But maybe you offer me a solution that I misinterpreted in your post?
Montage 7 classic
If you're using Multi-Channel MIDI mode then send to CH1. If using single or hybrid, send to the Send/Rcv MIDI channel. You don't need omni.
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Not everything has a CC. But the 8 assignable knobs do. To make use of this, de-link one of the assignable knobs from super knob so you can use it independently and then assign your 3rd expression pedal to the de-linked assignable knob. I believe the CC range default are 17-24 although I could be off going by memory. Check either the data list or look at your settings for the CC numbers. They can be programmed differently from the defaults on a per Performance basis if you want. You'd be looking at the Common/Audio settings (not Part settings).
when you unlink a knob, you cannot use anymore thru the super knob I suppose?
Montage 7 classic
Not everything has a CC. But the 8 assignable knobs do. To make use of this, de-link one of the assignable knobs from super knob so you can use it independently and then assign your 3rd expression pedal to the de-linked assignable knob. I believe the CC range default are 17-24 although I could be off going by memory. Check either the data list or look at your settings for the CC numbers. They can be programmed differently from the defaults on a per Performance basis if you want. You'd be looking at the Common/Audio settings (not Part settings).
when you unlink a knob, you cannot use anymore thru the super knob I suppose?
Montage 7 classic
Yes, when you unlink from superknob, the superknob no longer controls the unlinked knob. That's the goal. All unlinked knobs at the common level are themselves mini-super-knobs. Since you can have one unlinked assignable knob assigned to multiple Parts. So you can have one expression pedal that controls superknob (which, in turn, is controlling one or many common level assignable knobs) and one expression pedal that controls one of the unlinked knobs. An advanced expression pedal may even be able to control multiple CCs where you can control more than one unlinked assignable knob with a single expression pedal. That depends on the pedal. Even controlling only one common level assignable knob is flexible.
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Change the CC of the pedal to an assign knob CC.
A midi expression pedal can send only in one channel, there is no Omni mode. So you will be able to controlling only one part, the part witch have the same channel than you pedal,
Yes - I misunderstood you.
As Jason intimated you can use a pedal to control a common assign knob. Each common knob has an assigned CC - see p.153 of the Montage reference.
That page shows the CCs for each common knob and the other controllers.
1. Assign Knob 7 is CC23 by default but you can change it
2. Change the CC for the Foot Ctrl2 to 23 and that pedal will now control common knob 7
3. Unlink knob 7 (p.104 of the supplementary doc) and it becomes a 'mini super knob' for the parameters assigned to it.
You can assign parameters from any, or all, parts to a common knob.