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Tremolo arpeggiation for mandolin

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Gary
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Does anyone know how (and where I would go to do this) to make a mandolin like tremolo arpeggiation on the Montage? I realize it won't have the mandolin 'sound,' but I could make it work in this show I'm doing if I could at least do the tremolo.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

 
Posted : 12/12/2016 11:41 pm
Jason
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From the other thread

... you asked for tremolo - there is a "Tremolo" ARP as well - not sure how that fits into what you need.

 
Posted : 13/12/2016 4:09 am
Peter
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The MOTIF XF promotion file "Inspiration In A Flash" includes a sampled Mandolin in good quality in USER 4.
Because there are some installing problems of the complete library because of used sample formats I uploaded an extract including only the Mandolines.
There are three sampled Mandolin performances (high velocity with tremolo).

Please send a mail to

montage@easysounds.de

After that you will get the download access.
The file XF_Mandolin.X3A is added to the download folder, which includes mainly tutorial files.
You can load it to MONTAGE to USER or LIBRARY.

Peter Krischker
www.easysounds.de

 
Posted : 13/12/2016 7:27 am
Bad Mister
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Thank you, Peter!!!

 
Posted : 13/12/2016 6:34 pm
Gary
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Peter has been SO generous and helpful to me with these mandolin sounds, and I thank him profusely! All 3 of these sounds are great.

Peter, I experimented and found with a Velocity Offset set to 90 (versus 127 - all on tremolo), the touch sensitive tremolo kicks in just perfectly when keys are pressed a bit harder on the "Mandolin Trem Vel" and the "MandoBouzukiTremVel" performances. Glad I didn't have to bother you any further to get it just right! Thanks again.

 
Posted : 14/12/2016 5:18 pm
 Tho
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Peter wrote:

The MOTIF XF promotion file "Inspiration In A Flash" includes a sampled Mandolin in good quality in USER 4.
Because there are some installing problems of the complete library because of used sample formats I uploaded an extract including only the Mandolines.
There are three sampled Mandolin performances (high velocity with tremolo).

Please send a mail to

montage@easysounds.de

After that you will get the download access.
The file XF_Mandolin.X3A is added to the download folder, which includes mainly tutorial files.
You can load it to MONTAGE to USER or LIBRARY.

Peter Krischker
www.easysounds.de

I Emailed you for the Mandolin but I have no reply
Thanks

 
Posted : 14/12/2016 6:53 pm
Peter
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I sent it again manually.
Please check also your Spam folder if you don't see the mail.

Peter

 
Posted : 14/12/2016 8:32 pm
 Tho
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Peter wrote:

I sent it again manually.
Please check also your Spam folder if you don't see the mail.

Peter

I got it, Thanks for your help Peter

Tho

 
Posted : 14/12/2016 8:47 pm
Gary
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Peter, I tried loading the XF sounds that are now enhanced and available for V. 2.0. If worked fine, but now I can't get your wonderful mandolin sounds to play at all, just silence. What am I doing wrong? I had it working perfectly before this backup/restore session. When I try to load in mandolin "waveforms" it tells me the libraries are full. Help if you can, I have an encore performance that will require that sound once again.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Gary

 
Posted : 26/02/2018 10:17 pm
Jason
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The new firmware doesn't do anything to make incompatible libraries such as "Inspiration In A Flash" load into Montage.

Source: https://yamahasynth.com/resources/montage-motif-xf-performance-conversions/1137-montage-motif-xf-performance-conversions

In this session, we'll continue our scuba dive into the MONTAGE via converted Motif XF Performance data - and doing it with the New Version 2.00 of firmware for your MONTAGE.

...

If you are working with a custom Motif XF ALL data file (.X3A) File, please be aware that MONTAGE cannot translate older compression schemes (LPC, WXC), nor can it import 8-bit data.

The reason Inspiration In A Flash and other libraries have not converted is because they use LPC, WXC, or 8-bit data.

With v2.0, the situation is slightly "worse". Before, you knew that Performance data would not translate -- so you just wouldn't see any performances. Now they do convert - so all those performances that convert and use XF/XS/MOXF voices with non-supported data (LPC/WXC/8-bit) will not sound properly. In other words, now even more stuff doesn't sound properly compared to before.

 
Posted : 27/02/2018 6:06 pm
Gary
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Wow that's really a shame. Hmm... any suggestions Jason, or Peter? This puts me in a bit of a bind for a mandolin sound. I imagine re-installing the backup I created before updating to 2.0 still won't work because the OS has changed. I'd appreciate any help creating a new mandolin for OS 2.0

On another note - is there a way in Utilities to delete a library? I know I can start from scratch and simply NOT install the unneeded library to free up a library slot. I'm just wondering if there's an easier way that I'm missing. Thanks in advance.

 
Posted : 27/02/2018 6:56 pm
Jason
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I'm not getting something here - if Peter previously released a "just mandolin" performance for Montage that worked with a previous Montage firmware version - then nothing has changed and this should continue to work. Why it would have worked before and no longer works is a head scratcher for me.

If you tried to install the entire "Inspiration In A Flash" - expecting it would work without using the "just a mandolin" performance - then that does make sense. I would delete "Inspiration In A Flash" (since it doesn't work) and just keep the "just a mandolin" performance installed.

To delete a library [UTILITY], Contents -> Data Utility, touch "Library", touch the library you want to delete, left-hand side touch the "Delete" option, confirm deletion.

https://youtu.be/GHD_9UttXs8?t=43

I skipped past some of the beginning of the video. Didn't listen to it - but this is the part of the video where the deletion is actually made.

 
Posted : 27/02/2018 7:10 pm
Gary
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I never did install the "Inspiration in A Flash" (didn't even have it), Peter had somehow separated out and sent me only the 3 mandolin patches. These still show up as performances, but produce absolutely no sound. I don't know how to fix this and wish Peter would chime in here if he has a minute.

Thanks for the library deletion - pretty simple.

 
Posted : 28/02/2018 1:43 pm
Gary
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I've figured it out and have that glorious mandolin working again, with tremolo even!

 
Posted : 28/02/2018 6:38 pm
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Hi, on modx6 Peter's x3a files works but without repetition. Is there any solution?

 
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