Nothing. It is standard for MIDI devices to transmit MIDI OUT unless you defeat it.
Other ways include disconnecting it.
What is it we are missing about your question.

If you are connecting the Montage as a master MIDI controller you must setup your Performances so that it can act as your master controller. This means if you don't want it to transmit Out, activate the Zone, set the Transmit Channel = OFF

When I create new sounds or performances in my set up, I should now change the zone-settings of all parts of each performance. Also for the ones I'd like to audition. This is undoable.

Yesterday, I remade some performances from my Motif. I transferred the Motif-voices to Montage-parts. Then I created new performances with the "old" parts. F.e. Part 1 is a piano, Part 2 is a Synth, Zone 7 is controlling a Korg. I've set the zone's to ON and gave them the correct MIDI parameters.

Now, I want to try some other piano's in a performance (for example the Bosendorfer). If I understand you well, my new workflow should be following:

- I have to change the zone-settings of every part of each new piano prior to auditing them
- or I have to disconnect MIDI first prior to any auditing. Change the zone-settings afterwards, reconnect MIDI and never use "unadjusted" sounds.
- or avoid the use of MIDI channels 1 - 8 in all sounds of my Roland and Korg synths which are in my setup
- or not use the Yamaha anymore as the Master keyboard

I will try to find out work-arounds in the coming days and make sure I understand everything well. Unfortunately I'm also seriously considering the returning the Montage if I can't find a proper solution.

Now, I want to try some other piano's in a performance (for example the Bosendorfer). If I understand you well, my new workflow should be following:

- I have to change the zone-settings of every part of each new piano prior to auditing them
- or I have to disconnect MIDI first prior to any auditing. Change the zone-settings afterwards, reconnect MIDI and never use "unadjusted" sounds.
- or avoid the use of MIDI channels 1 - 8 in all sounds of my Roland and Korg synths which are in my setup
- or not use the Yamaha anymore as the Master keyboard

Fortunately, you didn't understand me well... Your application is to use it live.

I would suggest, given the additional information you've given, is to avoid the problem entirely. The more details you give the better and clearer the responses can be. If you have multiple keyboards in your rig for "live" playing it would make sense for you to change your MIDI I/O mode from Multi to Single. Since there is no need for you to be transmitting on channels 1-8, (a setup designed for recording multiple Parts, separately, OUT via MIDI to a DAW).

By setting your Montage to MIDI I/O mode = Single, all of your unedited Performance should not present a problem. Pick an unused MIDI channel
Press [UTILITY]
Select "Settings" > "Advanced"
Set MIDI I/O mode = SINGLE
Select a channel
The Montage will now only transmit on this channel (say 16), until you program your Zones.

Using the Montage in a "live rig", you expressly don't want to transmitting on eight channels. A mention of that in your original post would help the person supporting you know your use case. When MIDI I/O mode is Multi, it is completely normal for the Montage to transmit on multiple channels - but this is primarily for Recording Out via MIDI to a DAW. And is totally inappropriate if your using It in a "live" setup.

Before you return your Montage, you may want to take your time, think through your setup, read your manuals/supplemental manuals, and ask clear questions - you don't have to do it alone. We'd be happy to help if you provide us with the details. The more info you give the better the responses can be.
Hope that helps.

Bad Mister wrote:

Nothing. It is standard for MIDI devices to transmit MIDI OUT unless you defeat it.
Other ways include disconnecting it.
What is it we are missing about your question.

If you are connecting the Montage as a master MIDI controller you must setup your Performances so that it can act as your master controller. This means if you don't want it to transmit Out, activate the Zone, set the Transmit Channel = OFF

Maybe (and hopefully) I’m wrong but IMHO Yamaha missed following:

Suppose I play a preset CFX-piano, why would I want played notes to be transmitted via MIDI channels 1, 2, 3 and 4?

It’s a preset, so I cannot save settings. I have to copy the performance to the USER bank, change ZONE-settings for each part and stay out of the preset-area. I would strongly prefer NOT transmitting MIDI OUT for presets.

For libraries like the Bosendorfer, I would also prefer NOT sending MIDI OUT by default. I don’t want to send randomly 1/2/3 or 4 MIDI OUT channels when playing piano. I cannot save changes unless I make a copy in the USER area.

For the imported voices/parts I would prefer to start NOT transmitting MIDI OUT. Transmitting MIDI OUT would be a choice then.

My solution for this moment, in my home studio, is plugging the MIDI connector in and out 🙁

Maybe (and hopefully) I’m wrong but IMHO Yamaha missed following:

Suppose I play a preset CFX-piano, why would I want played notes to be transmitted via MIDI channels 1, 2, 3 and 4?

Fortunately, I do believe you are wrong. To answer this question: you wouldn't. But consider this (and in the meantime at least try what I wrote)... When recording a Multi-Part Single Instrument PERFORMANCE, like "CFX Concert" you wouldn't, you would set Montage to transmit and receive on a single MIDI Channel.

When recording a Multi-Part Multiple Instrument PERFORMANCE, like "DJ Montage" where drums and arpeggios are involved, you would want to transmit on multiple MIDI channels.

There are several different type of Performances. These setups are for sending MIDI data when recording.

Setting up for a live master controller situation, you would *globally* set the MIDI I/O Mode = Single and leave it there.
This would mean all Performances, except those you have already edited with zone settings, will behave according to the MIDI I/O mode = Single (channel) setting.

It’s a preset, so I cannot save settings. I have to copy the performance to the USER bank, change ZONE-settings for each part and stay out of the preset-area. I would strongly prefer NOT transmitting MIDI OUT for presets.

Again, you're new - the MIDI I/O mode setting is global, so it applies to Presets, User, and Library data.

Also Presets are just like Presets on any product, you can play them, edit them, but anytime you STORE your change, it is stored in the USER area. If you prefer not transmitting out on multiple channels, please try what I've written.

For libraries like the Bosendorfer, I would also prefer NOT sending MIDI OUT by default. I don’t want to send randomly 1/2/3 or 4 MIDI OUT channels when playing piano. I cannot save changes unless I make a copy in the USER area.

just simply not true, I can see you have not tried it yet... We'll be patient. It's global...

Let us know when you try what I wrote above. Set MIDI I/O Mode to SINGLE (it's global, will apply to the Bosendorfers too)

Bad Mister wrote:

Fortunately, I do believe you are wrong

And I think you are right BM. At least all signs are on green now 🙂

Setting MIDI I/O mode = single seems to be the answer indeed.

I'll continue transferring sounds / performances from my Motif to the Montage this weekend.
Thank you for your quick help.