hey guys,

is there anybody who can help me to fix the described problems? Eventually there is a solution!

Very sad that I've got no reply from official side, YAMAHA. Saying it again, I've invested a lot of money, even with my latest purchase, the XF7. Doesn't that include the right of an answer? No problem YAMAHA, if the MOTIF XF can't do such things the ES did... please let me know. Looking forward...

Thank you!

Sorry, but I didn't see a legitimate question in your original post. Just buyer's remorse... Perhaps if you relax, take the time to rephrase your rant in the form of a question. ("WHAT?" is not a question.) We get that you are confused about just how to use your new Motif XF after a decade using your (now very familiar)ES, but really.

The XF can do such things... Used properly. We await your legitimate questions, we would be glad to help! Happy holiday!

Thanks for your reply, Bad Mister. If you have read my posting carefully, you could have stated to each point, if you have wanted to. I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about!

Things aren't easy as you want them to: If I just wanted to place a remorse, I would have written „XF7 is crap“ and not given such detailed description on the issues. Sorry Mr. Mister for the clear words you may not have expected. It's not true, that the word „WHAT?“ has been my only question... you know that!

I'm now trying to explain the situation in a probably more „Bad Mister-wanted“ way, although I'm pretty sure that all other users previously understood.

hey,

I'm owning the XF7 for about one month and it is by far the best instrument I've ever owned. It has so many improvements above the ES7 which I am using for a decade. I really love the sounds and also the feel of the key-action, the black colour is so beautiful. The screen is kind of awesome, the handling of FlashROM is really user-friendly, it's a complete no-brainer. I'm so happy with my new board, but really! After playing around a little bit, I've noticed the following:

a) In SONG-mode there are slight polyphony-differences between ES and XF. I'm not able to play my ES7-setups with for example a layer of 3 sounds (Pad) and some more 3 Layers (Synth-Bells). I'm playing this setup in live situations (left hand: Pad, right hand Bells) and this never caused any problem on my ES7. The XF7 obviously does not handle the sounds without cutting of notes.

Q1: Could it be, that the polyphony-algorithm has been degraded in this particular context, comparing to ES?

Q2: Is there a way to get this ES-setup smoothly running on the XF?
(not by erasing tracks,...)

b) In MASTER-mode (the mode is always refering to SONG) I've noticed slight differences between ES an XF. The MASTER – Transition (Change-Over from one to another MASTER-set) takes more time than the ES. The MOTIF ES7 is capable of switching MASTER-Setups (all refering to SONGS) in less than half a second. THE MOTIF XF7 takes at least 3 times as much. When I was playing during transition, the sound crackles, cutsoff, some crank noise appears.

Q1: Could it be that MASTER-transition has been degraded in this particular context, comparing to the ES?

Q2: Is there a way to get to the same (short) transition-time as the ES in this particular case?

c1) In MASTER-mode (as stated above always refering to SONG), I am playing my setup C02 (here: refers to Song 5), sequencer is running. Now I want to "preselect" another MASTER-setup C07 (= Song 3), so I'm just pressing the Group-Button C, not yet "07". For some time XF7 is not more responding to keyboard-action, notes are hanging. I've compared this with my ES, which operates smoothly.

Q1: Could it be that this preselection has been degraded in this particular context, comparing to the ES?

Q2: Is there a way to get to the same un-interrupted playing as the ES?

c2) After preselected the Group-Button C, I want to stop the sequencer because of song-ending.
I've noticed that nothing happens when I press the STOP-Button on the transport-bar. The sequencer can't be stopped at that time. I've compared this with my ES, which operates correct.

Q1: Could it be that this funcion has been degraded in this particular context, comparing to the ES?

Q2: Is there a way to get the STOP-function working in this „mode“?

c3) To stop the sequencer I have to EXIT this "preselect"-mode by pressing the EXIT-Button. I've noticed, that for some milli-seconds the XF7 is again not more responding to keyboard-action. The same behaviour appears for external gear (I'm running some rack synths and MAINSTAGE, controlled via XF7) -> there's no outgoing MIDI-signal. I've compared this with my ES, which operates smoothly. WHAT? (oh, sorry for that!).

Q1: Could it be that this function has degraded in this particular context, comparing to the ES?

Q2: Is there a way to play without interruption in this „mode“?

Please notice that this writing above is an revised version of my posting from dec. 11, 2015. Meanwhile I've noticed some more unexpected behaviour of XF (e.g. in VOICE EDIT mode the buttons don't react as expected, according to the screen) ... maybe I'll get back to that next time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

We highly recommend you contact the Yamaha Customer Service department servicing your area. What you describe is not typical, and could be a real problem. The XF is on tour with top acts around the world and it is because of its reliable performance, great sound, etc. If you are loading ES sounds (based on only 4 Elements) it is not, or should not be taxing your XF which is based on double the number of oscillators per Voice, and has faster envelopes, faster filters, and overall faster response.

Please contact your Yamaha Service and try to describe your actual issue, as you would to someone from whom you would like help. Bring along your data, so they can help you analyze exactly why you are getting the response you are getting.