Want to change the Velocity Sensitivity of a voice in a perfomance or of the voice itself and having issues. I thought the instructions below would tell me how but I do not seem to be able to make them accomplish what I want.

For example say I want to make an organ be touch sensitive, volume wise like a piano.....how could I accomplish it? Reason being, that in a performance I have 4 instruments. Say, lead is an organ, with a guitar, bass and drums working on arpeggios. I could change volume with the petal but it would change all voices. If I want just the organ to get louder, one way would be hitting keys harder like on a piano. Cannot get it to work though.

In the MOXF: In order to change the Velocity Sensitivity of a PART used in a Performance you must find the Voice occupying that PART and recall it in VOICE mode. (Very Important).
Make your edits to the VOICE itself (while in VOICE mode);
Then NAME and STORE a new USER Voice to your User Bank.
Finally, return to the PERFORMANCE, now you must replace the original Voice in the PART of your Performance with your newly edited USER Voice and STORE your updated Performance.

It is that simple and that complex.

Extra Credit: Alternative Methods:
Instead of creating a (mythological) velocity sensitive Organ. If you want just the organ to get louder when you adjust your Controller, you can simply assign a Controller (like an FC7) to send CC4 (Foot Control), then all you need do is make the Organ PART's Volume parameter respond to the Foot Control. This will allow you to address just the Organ Part and not the others. This EDIT (again) would be done to the Voice in VOICE Mode using the Control Set.

Background: If you use CC7 (Main Channel Volume) or CC11 (Expression) then all PARTs of the Performance will respond together.
With CC7 all Parts receiving this command will jump to the exact same Volume value
With CC11 all Parts will change together but will remain in relative proportion to each other.
CC7 and CC11 are "channel-wide" messages - this means all active PARTS will respond to them.* You have an option that allows you to have each Part RECEIVE the VOL/EXP messages or NOT RECEIVE the VOL/EXP messages. This is accomplished with the RECEIVE SWITCH (RCV SW) parameter within the PERFORMANCE Edit area. Each PART can be made to follow or ignore specific Controls. If you set the VOL/EXP option to OFF, the PART will ignore CC7 and CC11 commands --- please Page 69 of the MOXF Reference Manual for Receive Switch options.

So this is another way you can have the FC7 Pedal just affect the PART(S) you desire.

CC4 does not have a designated parameter that it controls... When you assign the Organ Part so that
SOURCE = FC2
DESTINATION = Volume
DEPTH = +63
Now you can set the overall VOLUME of the ORGAN PART to 0... this allows you to control HOW LOUD the organ is by the position of the Foot Pedal.
Heel Down = 0 Volume....
Toe Down = 127 Volume

You can reprogram the Foot Controller jack so that instead of being FC1 default Expression.... it is FC2 default Foot Control.
Please see the following article that goes in depth on how to make advanced Controller assignments on the MOXF:
MOXF Physical Controllers and Destination Parameters

Yes, it is a bit advanced but will allow you to direct your Foot Pedal to just the Part or Parts that you desire
The first example in the article shows how you can bias the Control of a PART's Volume to the MW - but it could just as easily be your Foot Pedal. Later in the article it shows you how to reprogram your Foot Pedal so that it can be directed to send cc4 - which, as you will see, is more flexible.

If you get stuck post back here.

Hmm...not sure I understand the velocity sensitive part. Yes, I know I can only modify User Voices not presets. If I am working on a User Voice, supposedly the information I attached is supposed to be the procedure to follow? I had tried and could not follow the directions and achieve the results I was expecting.

Will try setting up pedal for just once voice in a performance....sort of get used to playing harder to get louder volume. Using the pedal, not really as comfortable to me for accentuating small parts of a song, like a couple notes that need to be accented. Fine for overall volume adjustment. Maybe picking organ is bad example, some horns appear to work with velocity sensitivity, others not set up that way.

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@Bill, who is this collective? You and your best mate, ChatGPT?

Try asking for more info in a humane and considerate, caring, perceptive, sensitive and mature manner.

This still isn't Stackoverflow.

@Mike, the "Andrew" I'm replying to is the artist formerly known as Bill. He doesn't have a MOXF, so can only answer with stuff pulled from the manuals, hence the reference to ChatGPT, a new "AI" that's good at finding references. And the reason for his need for exacting specifics of your needs so he can go use ChatGPT as a reference finder for possible ideas that he's unable to try to confirm as working, or otherwise.

NO, I don't know why he changed his name, nor why he deleted his past posts. Perhaps because he's upgraded from ChatGPT 3 to version 3.5 and doesn't want any chance of a feedback loop messing with its "learning".

When looking at the Performance, press F2 for the "Voice" menu which will summarize all of the Parts' voice usage. Any Part you want to edit the velocity response needs to start with "USR" and not "PRE". If you see, for example, Swishie starts with PRE1:114 then you won't be able to edit the underlying voice which would be required. It would need to be more like USR1:114. Then you would edit the user voice and STORE that voice with your velocity sensitivity changes.

(114 is the numeric value for H02).

Well, I thought I could go here for help rather than being attacked. I followed the directions in my first post. I did edit the voices not the performance. the voices were USR not PRE. Sorry I do not know as much about this stuff as you do. The PRE114 question and this were different unrelated questions, which you are trying to tie together. Yes, I was trying to make a USR organ velocity sensitive.

I have a Motif XF and not a MOXF. Other than the menu particulars - most everything will transfer.

I edited the Swishie Voice and went to elements 1-4 changing the Level Velocity Sensitivity from 0 to +32 (did this edit four times - one time for each element 1-4). Then I STORED this Voice (since USR1 H02 isn't Swishie for me I edited the Preset and stored that into USR1 D09 or some such place). The organ was velocity sensitive as a Voice.

Then I switched to Performance mode and recalled a Performance that already had splits and not too arpeggio heavy. There was a Performance with acoustic bass and piano. I went to edit the piano Part and changed the voice settings from the piano to my new USR1 D09 "Swishie" edited copy. The organ was now velocity sensitive inside the Performance.

@Mike....

Yamaha is not attacking you. Some weirdo calling himself "Andrew" is being flippant and rude to you. A few of us believe it's the same guy who previously called himself "Bill"... who did exactly the same kind of thing for nearly 2 years on here.

Looking back through "Andrews" replies, there is actually no helpful content... it is all referrals to other posters. Also there is clearly no logic or understanding in the replies.... the verbal comprehension in the answers make no sense. Yet they are written as if they are penned by an "Authority on the Subject". They are not.

The best regular (not Yamaha) guy around here for detail is Jason. Bad Mister is also a guru, but I understand, recently retired, ex-Yamaha, who helps from time to time now.

Reading through all the posts above I have an educated guess....

This is a FAIR GUESS, and intended to help....

GUESS: You cannot increase the Volume Level of the Part/Voice in question because it is already at Maximum Volume. Not only that, the Volumes of the other Parts in the Performance are also at Maximum Volume.

Therefore any attempts to increase the Volume, relative to the other Parts will not work (you cannot increase beyond Maximum, no matter what you try, Velocity, Foot Pedal, Mod Wheel etc. ).

I suggest that you decrease the Volume of All Parts/Voices to around 66% of what they are now.

Now if you add Velocity to Modulate Volume you should hear a difference.

I have never owned a Motif/MOXF, so I do not know the mechanics.

I will say this... traditional Velocity settings on many Synths is counter intuitive. It would be easy to think that Harder Velocity will make the Volume go higher. In actuality, the current set Volume is the Maximum achievable (with key struck at Velocity = 100%).
The Velocity Parameter is in fact setting how much "quieter" Low Velocities will sound. Usually.

I think it is the case on Yamaha Synths also... I am not sure... so you will need to verify on your own.

I have a MODX. As a reference from the MODX, Element Parameter "Level/Vel" is the parameter you need to set to modulate Volume with Velocity. To be clear, you need to set it Per Element, not Per Part.

The Part Parameters "Velocity Offset" and "Velocity Depth" only change Keyboard Sensitivity. They can help, but they are more ergonomic controls and less traditional "Synth" controls. They are not "Modulators".