Hello, I am trying to get a file recorded on the board converted into audio with the original sound of the piano.

I tried twisting the settings on the MOXF8: MIDI sync: auto, Clockout: On, Seqcontrol: Off.

If you were twisting these settings then it is obvious this is all new to you.

MIDI data is what you recorded to the MOXF Sequencer. MIDI data is not audible, it is not audio. It is a series of coded messages that *represent* your musical performance. When the coded messages are played back to the MOXF synthesizer tone engine it reproduces your performance and Outputs Audio. (MIDI *represents* a performance like the holes punched in a piano roll represents a musical performance... you must place that roll of paper in an appropriate “player piano” for it to decode the musical performance). You cannot hear MIDI, you cannot hear the piano roll... it’s only coded messages.

To have it “converted into audio with the original sound” you will need to capture the audio output of the MOXF as the MOXF is playing back the MIDI data. The MOXF outputs two streams of audio signal... one analog, one digital.

The analog audio Outputs are on the back panel of the MOXF and are referred to as the MAIN L&R Outputs (1/4” outs that you connect to your sound system)... these you listen to...
The digital audio Outputs are routed via the USB “TO HOST” port and can be captured by your computer (Cubase AI is the perfect program for this). You will need to download and install the “Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver” for your computer type. This Driver will be able to translate the messages coming from your MOXF so your Computer can understand them.

It is not clear from your post if you are familiar with recording to Cubase... but in general, you are going to setup a Stereo Input to receive USB audio from the MOXF. You are going to create a Stereo Audio Track and set it to receive audio from the Stereo Input you’ve created. You are going to place that Stereo Audio Track in Record, and then playback the MOXF sequence.

This will write a Stereo Audio Track to Cubase which you can export as a .wav or convert to an mp3 File.

Go to the LEARN area of this site for articles on using the MOXF with Cubase.

NO you haven't understood my question unfortunately. THe reason I went into the midi clock / synchronisation settings is that THE ALREADY RECORDED MIDI (placed in the Sequenser memory on the piano) had its rhythm /tempo altered when I tried to convert THE ALREADY RECORDED MIDI file into audio.

THat is the reason I tried twisting the setting since it struck me it must be the pc mastering the MOXF8 not vice versa.

Yes of course I had already created an Audio track in Cubase. BUt as said it didn't record it well, partwise due to the rhythm not being as originally recorded.
I think to change a MIDI file on MOXF8 into audio, should not be any hazzle at all, but it was. I think those who made up the logics and working routes of this piano were not so straight forward in their thinking as one could have hoped for.

As a comparison it took me a few minutes to figure out how to convert a MIDI file on DGX 660 into an audio file, WITH NO HAZZLE at all. BUt perhaps because the MOXF8 has not got the built in possibility to do that so it needs to be transferred in mysterious ways to some audio track in some DAW such as Cubase.

I would have much preferred more simplicity and less possibilities to twist the settings BUT a straight forward way to for instance convert MIDI to audio, instead of having to be a professor in all the functions that are completely unnecessary, BEFORE EVEn being able to know where such a simple function is to find on the board /CUbase.

THere is an extreme lack of weighing / emphasizing what is important, what not. It seems every function has been given the exact same priority making it very hard to find and perform even simple functions. NOt all are nerds. THere exist some musicians too who don't see a pride in being a professor regarding all this nonsense functionality, but who wish to actually perform as a free improvising musician, not constrained by some twisted minds peculiar non-straight forward way of thinking, granting any function the same importance.

No one can know what you don’t know, only you...

If you wish to transfer a MIDI recording to audio, and you want the audio recorder to also reference the Tempo, Measures and Beats used in the MIDI recording, then you must synchronize the Clocks. The software Is referencing time via its clock and the MIDI sequence is referencing time via its clock.

Apparently, what you are not understanding is that a computer normally references time in Hours, Minutes, Seconds much like most humans (civilians). Even tape recorders referenced time according to the standard clock time.

Musicians (a special group of humans) and the MIDI recorders used to document a musical performance, do not reference time using Hours, Minutes and Seconds, unless we are talking the common language to civilians (non-musicians). In musician-talk we reference time in Measures and Beats. More useful to subdivide musical rhythms.

The computer is “taught” this musician language by the software. The software speaks both languages fluently. It can record referencing regular clock time and/or it can reference musician time. It is for you to set this up. Cubase can be used to record dialog (speech) — you wouldn’t use Measures + Beats. Cubase is used to make many of your favorite movies, both music and dialog.

Do not assume that *everyone* wants to do what you are attempting to do.
Rather, assume that there is a setup to accommodate this, “I don't know what it is yet, but I can find out!” A program as mature as Cubase will likely have several ways to do things that go far beyond your needs.

Cubase is going to record the Audio. Audio, unlike MIDI, does not easily change tempo... when you speed up playback of audio, the pitch goes up, when you slow down audio the pitch goes down... unless you process it to maintain the pitch. This requires CPU muscle.

To avoid having to do this intense processing, it is common practice to make the Audio Recorder the Master Clock. Put it in charge of not only Stop/Start functions but maintain location continuously by being the master clock device.

In Cubase
Go to TRANSPORT
select PROJECT SYNCHRONIZATION SETUP... > MIDI CLOCK OUT > DESTINATION > set the destination for the MIDI clock to the “Yamaha MOXF-1 (port1)”. This sends the clock from Cubase to the MOXF port 1.

Check the Tempo in the MOXF.
Set the Tempo in Cubase to this value... Cubase will be the Master clock.

In the MOXF, set the clock sync functions to follow Cubase
Press [UTILITY]
Press [F6] MIDI
Press [SF3] SYNC
Set MIDI SYNC = Auto
This will allow the MOXF to look for tempo commands from the MIDI connection.
CLOCK OUT = doesn’t matter we are using the external computer as the clock
SEQ CTRL = In _ this allows the MOXF to follow start/stop, and locate commands from Cubase

Now when you arm an Audio Track in Cubase it will be in charge of supplying the tempo.

You have failed to mention anything about the Time Signature (not to worry, it defaults to 4/4), or if there are Tempo changes during the composition. These, too, can be accommodated — Although perhaps not particularly, ‘straight forward thinking’, but it can be accommodated, too.

Your initial post did not even mention if you used Measures and Beats when recording in the MOXF or that you wanted to have those in Cubase. You did mentioned that you were going to make an MP3.

MP3 and even .wav file formats are not usually concerned with Measures and Beats. These are consumer formats. Consumers don’t speak the musician language. When you didn’t use the musician language in your original post.... there is no need to record the Audio with Measures and Beats if all you are doing is making an MP3. Had you mentioned you wished to add new parts, for example, — that would be a good reason to go through the setup I outlined above. Because then the Measures and Beats would be useful.

But if your only goal is to make your MIDI file into Audio or MP3, then there is no need to go through the above... just create an Audio Track and Record. Hope that helps.

txs. Yes I actually just wanted to convert the MIDI into AUDIO. I guess what I also considered and you told, is that I need to set the same tempo in Cubase.

Actually I tried but was unable to locate where to set it.

I just tried to record but then the tempo was wrong. SO I went into the moxF8 since I thought I might set it to be the MAster (MAster Keyboard) but it did not work.

SO I need to accept that Cubase is the master and that I have to set the tempo there. WHO would know if not a seasoned SYnth player??

Tempo in Cubase is set by going to PROJECT > TEMPO TRACK
The default Tempo is 120.000

I need to accept that Cubase is the master and that I have to set the tempo there. WHO would know if not a seasoned SYnth player??

Not sure what being a seasoned Synth player has to do with this... if your goal is simply to make an audio file (wav or mp3) the tempo readout is going to be meaningless. You could leave it set to the default... your file will not be using it. As long as you playback your audio at the tempo it is reading, your audio will playback at the exact right pitch.

(Vinyl recordings used to come in 45rpm, 33 1/3rpm, or 78rpm... in order for the audio to sound properly you needed to set your turntable to the appropriate revolutions per minute. When digital consumer audio formats came along the playback speed was fixed so consumers can’t mess it up). If you ever heard a 33 1/3 record played back at 45rpm, then you understand the professional audio terms: chipmunking and Munchkinization.

Consumer audio formats are oblivious to musician things like Time Signature, Tempo (bpm), Measure lines, Beats. Etc. All of these are MIDI markers (and therefore musicians only), once of which will NOT be included in your .wav, nor in your MP3. Consumer audio formats do not adjust pitch, do not adjust or count tempo, they do not playback polyphonically... they simply are made so the user (the consumer) simply has to start and stop them. They are designed to be dummy-proof... they are designed to playback at the originally recorded speed, thus guaranteeing the pitch/tempo.

You don’t have to be a seasoned synth player to know Audio is quite a bit different from MIDI.
MIDI data can be adjusted in tempo without any pitch change penalty... not so much, audio.

SO I’ll repeat it again, there is really no reason to setup Tempo, Measures and Beats, if all you are doing is going to create an audio (,wav or mp3) File. You would go through the setup of slaving the synth to the master clock in Cubase if (and only if) you plan on adding additional MIDI or audio Tracks (with Cubase), to your original MOXF sequence. Then (and only then) will having the MIDI functions dealing with Measures, Beats, Tempo, etc, be a meaningful and useful thing.

Hope that helps.

You would simply setup an audio track on your DAW and set it to record while the midi track is playing. It will make a new audio instance of the midi track. It has to be monitoring the recording during playback. The you will have both a misi copy and an audio copy.The audio can then be converted.

Hi,
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mp3 to midi https://evano.com/audio/mp3-to-midi-online-converter

Enjoy!