SO I immediately was adding point 4) as an Edit, but there was this error message saying that the system detected it as spam. Perhaps the level of security is set too high?

Anyway here it is

4) I now discovered that the INSTRUMENT track for the guitar part on the MOXF8 is recorded fine with the Instrument track plus che chosen solo instrument as Part 1 in the Pop up screen in Cubase for choosing the VST for the 16 parts. BUT the AUDIO track for the guitar is just a dead line despite I have the stereo in set as Stereo 2, as the discrete channels, exactly as with the piano which was recorded fine. SO WHY CAN'T I RECORD THE AUDIO TRACK? Is it because I already record the INSTRUMENT track?

5) Oh, and I discovered that the guitar track recorded with INSTRUMENT Track also doubles the signal despite of it being Muted in Cubase (M button beside the Track). I am puzzled as how to avoid this problem and get a NOT doubled /echoed sound? I checked in the Instrument Track that it was not due to some reverb effect, but there is no reverb chosen (E button beside the Track). WHen I play on the piano(guitar sound) with the Instrument track muted (the Audio is Muted too and there is no signal there) then I don't get an Echoed signal. Strange though there must be a solution.

Sorry for any issues you are having with posting... the spam filter may indeed need tweaking.

Hi,
I am recording realtime to my pc, to Cubase ai 9.5. I have done the singing and the piano part and recorded them as audio and the piano as INSTRUMENT too. I don't know really what the difference is between Instrument and MIDI. I see that for the track made as Instrument I can choose the VST as MOXF8 and hence have the sounds from the piano.

1) But do I also need a MIDI track in addition?

Now I am going to record some guitar using Punch in/punch out. But when I play back the other tracks and raise the DAW volume on the piano, I get the echo sound because I hear as well the sound directly to the monitors as well as the sound passing through Cubase. So of course I mute it in Cubase.

There is no one way to work with Cubase.

The difference in setting up as a TRACK INSTRUMENT versus setting up as a RACK INSTRUMENT
In general: you setup as a “Track Instrument” if you are using just one sound from the Instrument (like a plug-in).... setup as a “Rack Instrument” when using the Instrument multi-timbrally (using one MIDI Track for each Part) — this works best for the MOXF in Song/Pattern Mixing mode.

2) However I wonder whether the sound is completely aligned and ON-BEAT with that being played back from Cubase?

If I turn off the DirectMonitorSW (switch) on MOXF8 and play the guitar through Cubase alone, I get a terrible delay of the sound (I am not sure about the definition of the word Delay, but here I mean that when I press a key the sound comes later).

When you turn Off “Direct Monitor Sw” you are listening to the latent signal — the delay is referred to as “latency”. This is the time it takes for the computer to time stamp and place the audio, and send it back to you.

You would only choose to listen to this signal when you are additionally process the signal in the DAW (Cubase). Much like with an old style tape recorder, the musicians listen to themselves “direct”... the latent signal (the one that passes through the tape recorder is always delayed (in that case because the tape must travel from the record head to the playback head a few inches later.

Cubase has delay compensation, it ‘knows’ when the signal first arrived by the time stamp... it automatically places the audio exactly where it belongs. But listening to the latency is not necessary. monitor yourself playing “direct”... Mute the Cubase Audio Lane, until playback.

Sorry but I just don't understand this:

"The difference in setting up as a TRACK INSTRUMENT versus setting up as a RACK INSTRUMENT
In general: you setup as a “Track Instrument” if you are using just one sound from the Instrument (like a plug-in).... setup as a “Rack Instrument” when using the Instrument multi-timbrally (using one MIDI Track for each Part) — this works best for the MOXF in Song/Pattern Mixing mode."

I looked up the word https://electronicmusic.fandom.com/wiki/Multitimbral

what do you mean with one sound? YOu mean piano or guitar but not both??? One can make ONE MIdi track with all parts included; not just one instrument. I give up

Also why would I use Song/Pattern Mixing mode if recording to the PC? Is that not just for recording with the Sequenser to the SYnthesizers memory? Or are we talking about assigning one SOng Voice /Part to one Midi channel (another setup than the discrete 1+2 and 3+4 that I use now with the MIc on the first two (Stereo) and 3+4 for the Parts (Stereo2 in the Audio setup).

ABout delay: SO I get it I should always record muting the sound coming from the Cubase track (after recording: The processed sound).

HOwever It does not solve the problems: THat I still get an echoing sound in the recorded INSTRUMENT TRack (WHat you call the Track instrument).

ALso I still don't know why the normal Audio track won't record. SOmething rotten in the state of Denmark

When you go to setup the MOXF to record to Cubase as MIDI, and are going to record multiple instruments... Drums, Bass, Keyboard, Horns, strings, lead synth, etc. whether you are recording to the Internal Sequencer or to an external Sequencer like Cubase, you would naturally place the MOXF in either Song Mixing or Pattern Mixing Mode. These are the only Multi-timbral/Multi-MIDI Channel modes.

These are the only modes that allow you to access multiple Parts. It does matter that you are not recording to the Internal Sequencer.
Did you ever playback the Demo Songs or Patterns that came in the MOXF. They each contain multiple instruments... each instrument is on a separate MIDI Channel.

If you are in VOICE mode on the MOXF... You can access just a single sound... example, “Full Concert Grand”. That’s it. VOICE mode supports only one MIDI Channel.

If you are in PERFORMANCE mode on the MOXF... You can access four sounds by placing a different Voice in each of the four Part slots of the Performance. All four of the Voices play simultaneously because PERFORMANCE mode supports only one MIDI Channel.

In order to recall 16 Voices simultaneously (used for creating multi-timbral ensembles) you must place one VOICE in each of the 16 Parts of a Song Mixing or Pattern Mixing Program. Part 1 is MIDI Channel 1, Part 2 is MIDI Channel 2, Part 3 is MIDI Channel 3, and so on. You can create a multitimbral ensemble of sounds... each you can record one at a time.

Whether you plan to use the built-in Sequencer or you intend to record to Cubase, if your goal is to record multiple instruments to make an ensemble, you must setup a SONG MIXING or a PATTERN MIXING program. If you don’t know how to do this please refer to the Reference Manual or just study the Demo Song setups... press [SONG] to enter Song Mode (Sequencer), press MIXING to access the Tone Generator... it divides the screen into 16 Parts. One MOXF Voice is selected for each Part 1-16.

You will use a MIXING setup to create your ensemble.

Each Part will record to its own MIDI Track in Cubase, one at a time.

Extra Credit: Recommended Reading

MOXF Basic MIDI Recording to Cubase
MOXF Editor VST
MOXF and Cubase: the Doubling Issue
MOXF Basic Audio Recording