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It's been argued about how only (2) other voice options plus organ is either adequate or not so much.
The expansion of the organ section has been a benefit.
I noticed there are only a few combo selection voices "piano + strings" & "piano + synth" but that's about it.
Maybe it's not that there's not enough of a variety (some stuff is missing) but that you can't access them at once.
The simplest solution would be new combination voices and a lot more of them. It's not ideal but it could happen and there's space availble.
I assume hardware limitions will forever prevent layering what we have at hand beyond (2) plus organ unless SSS could be disabled.
Some say because it's only a stage board no one is that interested but by adding pre-layered voices to the selections at least that gives YC greater options in a simple way.
Of course you can't edit those individually but it's better than nothing.
Posted : 11/07/2022 4:33 am
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Respectfully I think that site is an appeasement creation or platform to make us think they care when actually they only obey the man. God is money and nothing else really matters. Just my opinion and unless hundreds requested something very specific I doubt they'd respond to it. It's a "get it off your chest" feel good deal. Maybe some of the improvements came from there but I'll bet they already knew the shortcomings before we posted them. Yamaha has been building boards forever so I doubt we can tell them anything they don't already realize. The very stiff present day competition drives much of there improvements more than that site does. I know the SKpro is more expensive but it's not as much a disposable board as the YC. If I stranded on an island and can have only one stage type board it's the SKpro just because the of fun factor and open-endness of it. I own both and play them both but the synth feel with customization and layering is just better on the SKpro. Yamaha is good but is always inside the box and more predictable. To their credit they did make it better and will keep making it better I hope. I'll admit it's better than typically expected but AWM2 has so many limitations. The Roland Fanton, I know it's a flagship, is insanly unlimited compared to the Montage. The CP1 technology never made it any further but that is their best sounding but appearantly still practically unaffordable. FM has been regurgitated for an eternity now. I'm not sure when/if anything will change fundamentally. Yamaha should probably totally reinvent themselves from the ground up sooner rather than later because others have caught on and are taking big leaps ahead.
Posted : 11/07/2022 8:24 pm
Well, I would be happy to have a full AWM2 synthesis capabilities on the existing board. At least, ADSR for filter and amp, that will be great and should not be that difficult. Also, a fully fledged FM synth access would be great. I know, the current physical panel does not support deep edition (yet?), but we can use John Melas editor to program synth patches freely.
It is a real waste that AWM2 and FM synths onboard have so few parameters when the full technology is there.
Posted : 20/07/2022 8:15 am
This is begging the question "Why didn't you buy a Montage or MODX instead?
They do have full AWM2 and FM-X Engine implementation by design.
I know little of the YC, but I had always viewed them as "Stage Keyboards" with some extra "case candy" thrown in. The case candy in this case is some "limited" implementation of AWM2/FM for "synthesis" type sounds.
Technically speaking (DSP, RAM etc), I don't know if the YC hardware is capable of full AWM2/FM-X implementation. It would not surprise me if it wasn't, for no other reason than the YC was designed from ground up to be something else.
I've seen a few MODX61 going for a song on second hand sites... that would be a quick, cheap and effective solution to your problems. The MODX61 is very lightweight, could easily be mounted above and be played from your YC.
Posted : 21/07/2022 1:07 am
[quotePost id=117901]This is begging the question "Why didn't you buy a Montage or MODX instead?
They do have full AWM2 and FM-X Engine implementation by design.
I know little of the YC, but I had always viewed them as "Stage Keyboards" with some extra "case candy" thrown in. The case candy in this case is some "limited" implementation of AWM2/FM for "synthesis" type sounds.
Technically speaking (DSP, RAM etc), I don't know if the YC hardware is capable of full AWM2/FM-X implementation. It would not surprise me if it wasn't, for no other reason than the YC was designed from ground up to be something else.
I've seen a few MODX61 going for a song on second hand sites... that would be a quick, cheap and effective solution to your problems. The MODX61 is very lightweight, could easily be mounted above and be played from your YC.
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Because I have already a Montage 7 which I enjoy in the studio, but cannot carry 17kg more, and that's the reason I bought an YC61 to keep sounding 'Yamaha' like but AWM2 is not really implemented. At least a proper ADSR for AMP and filter sections... (and not a mix of it as today)... and yet more slots...
Do you have another suggestion or just obsequiousness with Yamaha and it extremely poor/basic/non existant synthesis implementation in the YC series?
Posted : 18/08/2022 4:30 pm
