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How can i record audio data from mx61 directly through an USB cable?

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I am using my MX61 synth for midi recoding and it working perfectly fine with MIDI recodings.
But when I am trying to record audio from MX directly through USB cable( DAW -: cubase ai 7) , I am not getting the proper or say full volume on the audio track in cubase, even though my master volume of MX is fully.

Somebody please guide me. Please tell the step by step process of setting MX61 for the audio recording.

 
Posted : 10/10/2017 3:39 am
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First, thing you’ll want to know is there is a difference between VOLUME and record LEVEL. Your MX Volume being all the way up has no influence, whatsoever, on your USB RECORD LEVEL. NONE.

Volume is the human being responding to how loud something is... measuring the output of your speakers.
Level is the signal doing work and can be represented by a meter showing activity through an audio channel.

Level can be recorded, even when no signal is heard in your speakers. This is because, although related, Volume is different from Level. We refer to signal going to the speakers as VOLUME, the signal going to the computer recorder is referred to as recorded LEVEL.

The MX will send audio to your computer via the USB connection, this can happen whether or not you are even connected to speakers. (I’m sure you have owned a handheld recorder, it was able to record without you hearing something in a speaker... recording can take place without speakers). Record level (digital) can take place without volume (analog) signal being heard.

_The connection of the MX to your speakers is a separate signal path.
It will matter not at all if your MX Volume knob is all the Down, this does not prevent the MX from sending digital audio to your computer via USB. The MX path to your speakers is a totally separate signal path (analog).

We must start troubleshooting your issue with the computer and what it needs to see audio signals from your MX.
You need to install the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver for your computer type and operating system. We will assume you have done this and that your MX is connected to your monitor speakers... if not, let us know.

You mean to say you are not getting the record level (as “volume” cannot be recorded) Volume is a function of how loud and is strictly analog.
Okay, not to nitpick the terminology, but the record level you get has nothing whatever to do with your VOLUME slider. Turn it all the way down, notice the Audio Track still shows signal coming in when you play.

Again, Volume goes analog to your speakers.
You want to adjust the digital level going Out the USB connection.
Here are the things that affect the digital level:
1) The PART volume
2) The Velocity with which you play the sound
3) The EQ and Effects assigned to the Part
4) The VOICE volume*

PARTS
There are 16 Parts in the MX... the fact that one sound alone does not fill the entire dynamic range of your recorder should not be surprising... if it did you would have no room for the 15 other Parts.

Adjusting your levels needs to be done with Meters (not eye-candy) Eye candy is the graphic image drawn by the DAW, Zwhile it’s interesting to look at - it is not what you use to determine the record level of your audio signal... you can resize the eye-candy to look nice... the Meter will give you the only information you need to know about your record level.

Each of the 16 Parts has a Volume Control.
Press [PART SELECT]
Using the numbered buttons select a Part
Use the Down Cursor arrow to scroll down the list of Part settings... find the Part VOLUME.

VELOCITY
naturally a Velocity Sensitive Part will be louder and therefore cause more Output level when you play harder... do not forget this. When recording MIDI data most musicians pay no attention to their audio level... if you are playing a string pad behind some MIDI tracks, you want the strings in the background, so you wind up playing with a velocity of 40-60 because that “feels” right... then later when you want transfer this to audio don’t be surprised that it does not move the Record Level meters much.

This MIDI mixing is the cause of much low level output when transferring MIDI to audio.

EQ AND EFFECTS
An EQ is a device that combines filters and amplifiers that are specific to frequency. You can significantly boost the audio level of a signal using processing. Given that you have a limited number of processors available simultaneously, you may need to activate the processing as necessary... setting up to render Parts through your processors one at a time. Render the audio, then reallocate your Effects.

VOICE VOLUME
for those who wish to unlock some of the Motif level power of this baby MOTIF... if you have the Melas Editor suite for the MX, you can get in and adjust the Voice Volume. Voice Volume is the equivalent of the musicians local volume control - here’s what I mean... think of a guitar player in a recording studio. The PART VOLUME is the volume control found on the studio mixing console. The engineer raises and lowers these to create a balanced mix. If the recording engineer needs more signal from the guitar player (and even though this never happens in the real world) the engineer would ask the guitar player to turn UP their instrument at the Source.

Voice Volume is the local volume control found when creating the synth sound. On the MX series this and other deeper edit functions are unlocked by the John Melas Voice Editor... if you are serious about getting the absolute most out of your MX, I highly recommend the John Melas suite of tools for the MX series. If you are familiar at all with the MOXF or Motif series, the Editors unlock some of the functions that the bigger siblings let you edit.

When Yamaha made the MX they packed a lot of the bigger models into it, and they left a way for those “power users” to get at much of the power of the bigger (more expensive models)... they didn’t leave them out, they’re there - you’ll simply access them via computer Editor. John Melas is a third party software, that truly makes your MX. A full fledged member of the family!

For a step-by-step instruction start by telling us what Computer type you are using...

 
Posted : 10/10/2017 1:48 pm
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Thank you Bad Mister for the reply. Its really helpful.

I am using windows computer.

Specifications:-
OS- Windows 8.1
RAM - 4 GB
Processor - intel i5

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 5:49 am
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Hello Bad Mister. I have given you the specification of the computer I am using. Please help me with further process.

 
Posted : 03/11/2017 7:15 am
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Here is the article on setting up your MX with a Windows Computer. Make sure you have a USB cable connecting your MX and computer, and that the Main L&R Outputs of the MX are connected to your speakers. All sound will come from the MX (not the computer). So speakers need to be connected to the synthesizer, or you can use headphones connected to the MX

MX49/MX61/MX88 Cubase Windows Computer

If you get stuck, post back here.

 
Posted : 03/11/2017 9:31 am
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I did all of the which are mentioned in the given article, but its all about MIDI recording. What settings I am supposed to do for audio recording?

 
Posted : 02/12/2017 11:49 am
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The article is all about how to setup for Audio and MIDI recording. In order to record audio, create an audio track, place it in record, play the MX61 (it is really that simple once you completed the setup properly).

Create an AUDIO TRACK in Cubase
PROJECT > ADD TRACK > AUDIO
Add a Stereo Audio Track

Having done the setup it should be ready to receive audio from the MX

There will be a video posted shortly in the “Learn” area here on the site... look for Part IV

 
Posted : 02/12/2017 12:29 pm
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