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Michele
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Say two colleagues, CP4 owners, decide to share their respective Performances and settings. It might happen that not every Performance is a good starting point for each other, some Performances don't apply to their respective playing style. In a word, the exchanged files contain useful and not so useful content.
What if they would reorganize the CP4 memory asset, copying the useful Performances to create a new bank?
Is there an editor librarian avaliable for the CP4?

 
Posted : 22/12/2014 8:22 pm
Bad Mister
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Is there an editor librarian avaliable for the CP4

No, not that I am aware of... Performances as you say are so very individual and are very dependent on the song and situation the keyboardist is being asked to fill within the ensemble. And to the controllers connected.

You can BULK DUMP settings for an individual Performance, so any computer Midi utility capable of managing Sysex can be used to transfer Performance setups between colleagues. When restore data from a Bulk file, the information is initially transferred to an edit buffer. You can then direct the [STORE] routine to the location of your choice.

Hope that helps.

 
Posted : 24/12/2014 9:19 pm
Michele
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Bad Mister

Thanks for your reply.
To be honest I was already aware that a CP4/40 Librarian isn't avaliable at the moment. ๐Ÿ™‚
My request originated from a real life situation, where a famous and talented Italian keyboard player. Bruno Zucchetti, gave his CP4 Performances as a gift to the other CP4 owners.
Please, have a look at this VIDEO

As you can see, there are plenty of interesting Performances, although they must played not olny with hands but also with multiple pedals (2 FC7, FC3 and FC5)
All that said, I thought that a simple librarian for the CP4 would have helped a lot musicians to exchange their Performances each other.

Anyway, a single bulk dump for a Performance is not rocket science, but on the other hand, it might help choosing among useful and not useful Performances.
Trying to see the glass half full ๐Ÿ˜€

 
Posted : 26/12/2014 9:31 am
Bad Mister
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All that said, I thought that a simple librarian for the CP4 would have helped a lot musicians to exchange their Performances each other

Wow, you figured that out all on your own! ๐Ÿ™‚ yes, we are familiar with Mr. Zucchetti's work, thanks for posting the link; you need to get busy building your own Performances!!! They are all user programmable memory and quite easy to put together (even without a computer!!!). They are based on what you need to do, personally, on the song you are playing at the time... As well demonstrated by Bruno in his video and his sound bank. Excellent work. Please post/ share your work when you have finished creating your setups. You don't need a computer, the ones you see demonstrated in the video are created easily right on board the instrument. (They are great to share and a great way for others to get ideas for working out solutions).

Just trying to get you filling your own programming 'glass' started ๐Ÿ™‚
And if you are a computer programmer, there is an opportunity for you to write a useful piece of software...

 
Posted : 26/12/2014 2:27 pm
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Slightly off point, but relative to the Bruno Zucchetti video. I would like to know where are his drum backing tracks are coming from? From an external sequencer sending MIDI iN to the split part set to a drum voice set to a low split point? Audio recorded and played back from a memory stick inserted into the CP4? Audio from an external source independent of the CP4? Something else?

I am aware of all these potentials, but I would like to know what he is actually doing as it sounds great and works.

Thanks in advance.

 
Posted : 02/01/2015 3:52 pm
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Slightly off point, but relative to the Bruno Zucchetti video. I would like to know where his drum backing tracks are coming from? From an external sequencer sending MIDI IN to the split part set to a drum voice set to a low split point? Audio recorded and played back from a memory stick inserted into the CP4? Audio from an external source independent of the CP4? Something else?

I am aware of all these potentials, but I would like to know what he is actually doing as it sounds great and works.

Thanks in advance.

Earle wrote:

Slightly off point, but relative to the Bruno Zucchetti video. I would like to know where are his drum backing tracks are coming from? From an external sequencer sending MIDI iN to the split part set to a drum voice set to a low split point? Audio recorded and played back from a memory stick inserted into the CP4? Audio from an external source independent of the CP4? Something else?

I am aware of all these potentials, but I would like to know what he is actually doing as it sounds great and works.

Thanks in advance.

 
Posted : 02/01/2015 3:54 pm
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Sorry for the double entry above. Wanted to correct some late discovered typos.

 
Posted : 02/01/2015 3:58 pm
Jeff
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Here's how I'd approach it, without the benefit of special software. It takes advantage of the fact that you can save a whole setup, and from it, load any performance into any slot.

I'd save my complete setup to USB memory key. (They now make tiny ones that are small enough I leave mine all the time, even in the case.) I'd have my friend save his complete setup to the same memory key. Then I'd plug it back into my CP4, load his setup, and play with his performances, making a note of the ones I liked: the number and what it is.

Then I'd load my setup again, and with my already existing notes of what performances I've set up and what ones are available for use, I'd load the ones from his file onto whichever location I want the new one.

If there's software that makes that easier, that's cool, but other than helping to keep the notes, I have a hard time figuring out how it could be easier.

Sorry that offhand I can't remember the term for "saving the whole setup" but it's pretty easy to find on the CP4 or in the manual.

 
Posted : 03/02/2015 3:14 am
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Since a couple of months Iยดm also a proud owner of a Yamaha CP4. For me the CP4 is really useful live on stage.
But what Iยดm also missing is a kind of editor for PC.
So I started to write a little software tool which can read the Yamaha CP4 files *.C7A.
At the moment this tool is only an early test version with some basic functions:
* Import and export *.C7A Files (such a file i call "dataset" of the cp4)
* showing all the performances of each *C7A file
* copy, insert and swap the performances in one file to organize a setup for a live performance
* showing a complete list of all performances from all imported *.C7A files (my performance library)
* creating new datasets and insert performances form the library.
So it is not an editor but a librarian tool to manage the performances and build performance setups. They can be exported in a *.C7A file and transferred to the CP4 with an USB stick.

 
Posted : 20/06/2018 8:47 pm
 Sean
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Hey Daniel - I'd love to get a hold of your editor. Can you email me - sean@seanpeter.com

THANK YOU!!

 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:26 am
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Hi both

Just wondered how this was working out ?

M

 
Posted : 02/08/2018 6:57 pm
Michele
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Hi Daniel and thanks for your reply.

I'm sorry that good willing people like you has to do on their own what Yamaha should.

It's quite difficult to understand why there are so many lackings in the software sector to support Yamaha electronic musical instruments.

As I stated i nthe beginning, an Editor for CP4 is far from fundamental, but a Librarian to organize Performance is a lifesaver.

If you need a beta tester, don't hexitate to write me: wavesequence at gmail dot com.
Thanks in advance

p.s. It would be a dream within a dream if yout Librarian run under OSX... but it's already a miracle if it's for Windows.

Since a couple of months Iยดm also a proud owner of a Yamaha CP4. For me the CP4 is really useful live on stage.
But what Iยดm also missing is a kind of editor for PC.
So I started to write a little software tool which can read the Yamaha CP4 files *.C7A.
At the moment this tool is only an early test version with some basic functions:
* Import and export *.C7A Files (such a file i call "dataset" of the cp4)
* showing all the performances of each *C7A file
* copy, insert and swap the performances in one file to organize a setup for a live performance
* showing a complete list of all performances from all imported *.C7A files (my performance library)
* creating new datasets and insert performances form the library.
So it is not an editor but a librarian tool to manage the performances and build performance setups. They can be exported in a *.C7A file and transferred to the CP4 with an USB stick.

 
Posted : 21/08/2018 7:11 pm
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[quotePost id=32053]Since a couple of months Iยดm also a proud owner of a Yamaha CP4. For me the CP4 is really useful live on stage.
But what Iยดm also missing is a kind of editor for PC.
So I started to write a little software tool which can read the Yamaha CP4 files *.C7A.
At the moment this tool is only an early test version with some basic functions:
* Import and export *.C7A Files (such a file i call "dataset" of the cp4)
* showing all the performances of each *C7A file
* copy, insert and swap the performances in one file to organize a setup for a live performance
* showing a complete list of all performances from all imported *.C7A files (my performance library)
* creating new datasets and insert performances form the library.
So it is not an editor but a librarian tool to manage the performances and build performance setups. They can be exported in a *.C7A file and transferred to the CP4 with an USB stick.[/quotePost]

Curious to know the state of your software tool... Is it available for other users?

 
Posted : 06/04/2022 3:43 pm
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