It seemed to me that one arpeggio did not want to work on two channels. Why?

All ARPs will work under multiple Parts even if you use the same one. That's not an issue here.

Firstly I open two parts with same my preset and mute per channel scenes.

This seems to be your issue. Your muted Part isn't receiving the trigger notes so when you scene change to the other Part previously muted, nothing is running. You would have to unmute then trigger the ARP by pressing a key.

If that even doesn't work, check the ARP setup for direct vs sort, note range, velocity range, etc

What you want to do is have the part you want silenced to change the ARP to "Mute 4/4" or the one matching your time signature. The hold option should can be set to sync for all Parts.

Don't mute (as in silence at the Part level) any Part and let the ARP handle that for you.

Don't mute (as in silence at the Part level) any Part and let the ARP handle that for you.

I meant don't mute... I meant like this - Scene 1 KbdCtrl ON Part I and Scene 2 KbdCtrl ON Part II (Part I like mute)

What you want to do is have the part you want silenced to change the ARP to "Mute 4/4" or the one matching your time signature. The hold option should can be set to sync for all Parts.

No. I don't change size. All I need to switch Part I or Part II.
Difference between parts is +12 choarse shift. That need to play other samples in high octave. But my hand stay in one position.

My feedback remains the same with only one alteration.

Your Kbd Ctrl=OFF Part isn't receiving the trigger notes so when you scene change to the other Part previously set to Kbd Ctrl=OFF, nothing is running. You would have to set Kbd Ctrl=ON then trigger the ARP by pressing a key.

Assuming you have not selected the Part in question, the problem is that when keyboard control is turned off, that Part "sees" no piano key presses.

Repeating - reorient your Performance. Remove Keyboard Control=OFF and instead utilize the "Mute #/#" arpeggios instead of using keyboard control to "turn off" a Part. This will allow all Parts to get your trigger notes but the "Mute #/#" arpeggio will play an arpeggio that is rests (not literally "mute" but rests). So the arpeggio is still still running even though is not sounding any notes. Then when you switch scenes the "Mute #/#" Part which was silent will switch to your arpeggio which plays notes and the other Part will switch to a "Mute #/#" arpeggio which will silence it.

Don't use keyboard control for this - you're keeping the Part with Keyboard Control=OFF from receiving trigger notes.

This will take some planning on the arpeggio arrangements for each Part. Say you have 2 different arpeggio variations and your time signature is 4/4.

Part No1, Part No2

	Arp No 1, Mute 4/4

	Arp No 2, Mute 4/4

	Mute 4/4, Arp No 1

	Mute 4/4, Arp No 2

Under "Part No1" (Part 1) this shows the list of individual arps for arp 1-4. And under "Part No2" this shows the list of individual arps for arp 1-4 of that Part. When Arp #1 is selected, the combination will be Part 1 playing your first user arp and Part 2 will select the Mute 4/4 arp which will have Part #2 not sound. And then down the list ...

So instead of using Keyboard control - you are adjusting the mix of arpeggios selected for each Part which accomplishes the goal.

All this needs to be checked and considered. Thanks for the great comments!

One important question is it possible to use hold on an arpeggio when switching between two parts?

The hold option should can be set to sync for all Parts.

Too many words, but you can delete "should" or "can" in above and reads similarly.

The hold option should be set to sync for all Parts.

I wanted to free my hands. It's very difficult to switch scenes and play the left hand. However, I see "hold ON" cannot be used. Unfortunately, the hold ON does not turn off himself and two parts are played at once.

I found my problem what I wrote about earlier. Simply had to enable Arp in the Scene tab.
At that time I only turned on Kbd Ctrl.

(unexpectedly because I turned on the arp on the mixer)

OK, now it work!

[quotePost id=116533]@ab - for more info about the Mute 4/4 Jason is suggesting see Bad Mister's reply #11386 in this thread:

[/quotePost] Thanks!

«Mute 4/4» 😮 LOL is this name of Arp! This was unexpected 🙂
Arpegio instead pause! Very good. Yes I see it here "Kreuzberg Funk"

Now it has come to me what Jason says

Yes, there are factory supplied arpeggios that are used as "rests". They have one for many common time signatures (and uncommon ones too). 3/4, 4/4, 12/8, etc. Each starts with "Mute" then ends with the time signature.

Instead of playing notes these arpeggios play rests.

It's important to stress that the arpeggio PLAYS rests. That means the arpeggio is still running. It's still on, only no notes are played by these arpeggios. However, these arpeggios are actively counting rests so when you switch to another arpeggio that does play notes - the arpeggio will come in on time at the next count 1 downbeat of the measure.

Sync-Off requires you to hold the keys but keeps the arpeggio running. This was suggested because it allows for you to gate the arpeggio and still have the arpeggio running, yet silently, when you let go. It sounds like you want to have the arpeggios hold, so you can use Hold=ON.

I think you are beginning to see how this system works and how all arpeggios can be set to hold as long as you properly setup the "Mute #/#" arpeggios for a selected arpeggio number. You only globally set the arpeggio number (1-8). So each Part will be playing the same arpeggio number. And by number I mean 1st in the list vs 2nd vs ... 8th.

Then your scene button can set the arpeggio number (that all Parts use) and each Part's mapping of its arpeggios will determine which Part is playing notes and which is playing rests.

... and to further relate "Mute #/#" to something musical - these "Mute" arpeggios are like musicians who are actively counting rests in sheet music. So these musicians always know when to come in. If you aren't using this and use keyboard control then you have tap on the musician's shoulder since they're sleeping during the rests. The musician being the arpeggio. An arpeggio is a computer musician inside the keyboard. Without "Mute #/#" it's like having a question mark on the sheet music for rests. Requiring the conductor (you) to physically do something to get the musician to play at the right time (meaning retrigger the arpeggio manually).

Hold=on and Sync-Off are similar in that they both will "run" when you let go of the keys. Hold=on will sustain what you were holding and Sync-Off will not sustain what you were holding but will still have the arpeggio continue to run silently so when you next press down the arpeggio continues at the right time (even if you press say in the middle of the arpeggio's cycle).

Thank you, Jason!

Good thing, I found that UserArp has depends of octave value. It's very good now I can use only one part insted two.
Now I use Scenes only to switch Arp Numbers.
Arp play key C1 with waveform C major ready chord guitar strum...
Arp play key C2 with waveform C minor (my hand press key C1)
OK!

I don't understand something... When I recording Pattern in C3 and Edit/Job it to UserArp with [Orig Notes Root = С3]
I have C1 output. It strange. Although it does not interfere 🙂

Org note transposes according to the trigger note. If you record a C3 as the 1st note of an arp with an arp root of C3 then if you play a C1 then this will transpose the arp's first note output to C1.

If you're using different ranges for each arpeggio then note limit the arpeggios so your other lower notes do not trigger the upper and vice versa.

The first note in your recorded pattern (that you want to convert to your arp) is the root note.

But the MODX/Montage pretends, unhelpfully, to not know what this is, nor to even show it to you. Instead, it asks you to tell it what that note is.

If you tell it something else, it offsets the arp by the distance from the note you tell it -> to the first note of the pattern, when initiated as an Org Arpeggio.

Yamaha don't use their onboard Pattern Sequencer for making arpeggios, they have their own special (and more powerful) PC software for programming arps. No, you and I cannot get this software.

This is why it's such a disjointed, horror show of an experience to make arps, and why we can't make aware arps, that behave conditionally.

When I recording Pattern in C3 and Edit/Job it to UserArp with [Orig Notes Root = С3]
I have C1 output.

I'm wrong sorry! С3 = C3 in centre. I'm play it about C1 himself )))

Yamaha don't use their onboard Pattern Sequencer for making arpeggios, they have their own special (and more powerful) PC software for programming arps. No, you and I cannot get this software.

Thank you, Andrew! Yes this is bad. Where are the hackers? We should have it! 🙂

Is it something special? Firstly I open Cubase with using MODX Scene and transport stopped.
When I Closing Cubase project Scene are plaing again.