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Please help me! I'm searching sound like this Full MODX song played
What this is snare drum waveform? What the FX used?
I can't get close at all. Only remotely similar. This song recorded on MODX most likely without third-party samples.
I'm probably dumb but I have few ideas about this. Although I want to get that sound. 🙂
Most likely this is not a problem for experienced musicians.

 
Posted : 20/03/2022 6:56 pm
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I try to use ( House SD 3 st + House Clap 3 St ) but it too hard or not enough hard. And I not know suitable FX

 
Posted : 20/03/2022 7:09 pm
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Besides the Bass Drum and the Snare Drum, it sounds like there is a (Shaking) Tambourine.

Do a Category Search - Waveform Search text for "Tambourine"... or just "Tam". This will at least get you in the right ball park.

With a Deep Dive into the Drum/Perc waveforms, you will realise there are sometimes hundreds of versions of the same "type" of sound e.g. a Tambourine. Tambourine would likely be listed as a "percussion" instrument,, along with cuica's, castinets, maracas etc.

You can use the Data List Manual also to do a text search in the Adobe .pdf file.

 
Posted : 27/03/2022 11:35 am
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It happened that this is an external sound. I found it here:
https://samplefocus.com/samples/eurodisco-whiplash-snare
Eurodisco whiplash snare
By Yan Tichin

I think white noise is added here but i'm not an expert.
It would be nice to have recipes ready.

 
Posted : 27/03/2022 2:36 pm
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With a Deep Dive into the Drum/Perc waveforms, you will realise there are sometimes hundreds of versions of the same "type" of sound e.g. a Tambourine.

Accept it.

Unfortunately, the sounds of the device are limited. Lots of weird content instead of real popular music. Although there is no dispute about tastes. Hip-hop, rap, rock and roll with a touch of mothballs. New time with the degradation of pop music.
As a result, many snare drums are unsuitable for real music.

 
Posted : 27/03/2022 2:54 pm
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I was able to get close with "SD TB Q" using SPX Hall insertion and changing around the effect parameters. There's a pretty heavy bass component here too which I'd probably just layer a bass drum to get that although I see snares that have other elements mixed in (like snare+clap) and maybe there's already one with a bass drum mixed in.

Keep in mind that you may need to take the basic building blocks provided and manipulate them in order to conform the sound to your taste.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 27/03/2022 8:42 pm
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Thank you, Jason!

 
Posted : 28/03/2022 12:33 am
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"Lots of weird content instead of real popular music"

If you think the instrumental you posted is "hip" you must be living in a different decade.

Not sure why you dismissed my help, but if you need spoon-feeding I'll give it a go.

#1 The music example you posted is mostly (excepting some cliche tom-tom fills) a Kick Drum - Snare Drum 4/4 loop. Bom-Pah-Bom-Pah etc.

This basic pattern is easily created on the MODX from stock sounds. (See end of post).

The other "shaker" sound, which I hinted to look for in the "Percussion" Sub Category... could be a "Cabasa" or one of many other "shaken" type instruments.

In Waveform Category Search, set Main = Drum/Perc, and Sub = PC (PC means Percussion).

Cabasa/Tambourine alternatives:-
- Maracas
- Shaker
- Chocal
- MetalGuiro

Just a few options listed for you.

To quickly "audition" Drum waveforms:-

1: Open "Init Drum" performance.
2: Click on Part 1 - Edit.
3: Select "Drum Key" in bottom right.
4: Select "Keyboard Select" just above.
5: Play Piano Key C3.
6: Click in "Name" window, top right.
7: Select "Category Search". Set "Bank/Favourite" = All.
8: Set Main Category to "Drum/Perc".
9: Set Sub Category to your preference (in this case = PC for Percussion).
10: Play Key C3.
11: Press the Top Panel "Right Arrow" button to move to the next Sample/Waveform.
12: Play Key C3.
13: Set Favourite any that are "similar".
14: Repeat steps 11 & 12 & 13 until you have listened to everything in the list.
15: Set Bank/Favourite = Favourite, Main = Drum/Perc, Sub = PC.
16: Listen again to all you Set as Favourite.

The "sound in your head" may not be listed in the obvious categories. You can also find Drum & Percussion sounds in "Sound FX" & "Musical FX". If you are adventurous, you can find useable "percussion" sounds in almost any category.

There is no avoiding the time it takes to search through the database of waveforms. Maybe sometimes people on here can point you right to the Waveform, but mostly you will need to search yourself.

In some cases it is possible to identify a specific sound (of a particular song or band) by researching the song/band with Google. For example, I discovered a very distinct "Handclap" was a "LinnDrum2" sample, used in the 80's a lot.

Another member here, posted a link where you can download a "LinnDrum2" sample library for Montage/MODX.

Anyways....

Assuming you find a sample that is similar in the MODX, select/choose it (by pressing ENTER button).

Back on the Osc/Tun EDIT Page you can sometimes adjust the Timbre by changing Coarse or Fine Tuning... just try it.

Next try adjusting the Filter Cut-off (LP & HP) and Resonance.

Then the Element EQ.

Finally... go to COMMON, bottom left, then choose Effect - Routing.

Drum Key (C3 still in this case), Keyboard Select still on (Green).

Connect = InsA
Ins Connect = Ins A -> B

In Effect A ON.... initially set to Thru, select Category = Reverb, Type = Gated Reverb, Preset = Gated Reverb 1.

This will set you on a journey of exploring Effects. Believe it or not, this is how many "special" Drum & Percussion sounds are created from plain old "standard" sounds. The only limit is your imagination. Try any FX to learn. Remember you have 2 FX - A and B. You can choose to have a Drum Key bypass Insert Effects by setting its Connect to "Thru". Alternately, you can have some assigned to A->B, with others just to B (Bypassing A).

You'll need to experiment with Insert Effects. There are many combinations.

 
Posted : 28/03/2022 11:18 am
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[quotePost id=115502]New time with the degradation of pop music.
As a result, many snare drums are unsuitable for real music.[/quotePost]
If we take your example as a reference, the only possible direction in quality was up, really.

 
Posted : 28/03/2022 12:25 pm
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What Jason said.

The drums are heavily produced, and strongly favoured, and quite a bit of ducking is being applied to the other sounds to further help them stand out.

It's going to take quite a bit of fussing around with the effects to get the drums as good as this.

And strong agree on the content of the sounds in the Yamaha. Would have been good in late 90's.

The other sounds (the melodious content) bely the sophistication of the drum sounds and their engineering, especially for those not familiar with the wonders of music from regions North and West of Mongolia.

 
Posted : 28/03/2022 7:27 pm
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