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MODX - Old Fashioned Pre-Digital Age Telephone Ring Sound

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Hello again Yamaha Synthesizer Support,

Does the MODX have resident the performance sound of an old fashioned pre-digital age telephone ring? My band occasionally plays Glenn Miller's "Pennsylvania 6-5000" - having this would come in handy at these times.

Again, many thanks in advance.

Steve

 
Posted : 26/02/2021 4:21 pm
Jason
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[CATEGORY SEARCH]
Touch the magnifying glass in the upper-right which is the search-by-text feature
Touch-Type "telephone"
The "Telephone" Performance should be what you're looking for.

The Performance number is 1939 - so you can also search by number when adding a Part. I'm getting this Performance number information from the Data List.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 26/02/2021 4:48 pm
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I thank you again, Jason. Admittedly, I was looking at the Data List sub category "Digital" for this performance - turns out the sub category is "Nature"!

Again, many thanks!

Steve

 
Posted : 26/02/2021 10:39 pm
Antony
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I had a look at some of the MODX Sound Effects samples. Its a mixed bag - some good, some not so good.

The Telephone is in the not so good category.

Then I discovered the BBC Sound Sample Library. Over 60,000 samples, fully curated and searchable. You can find the link with Google.

 
Posted : 27/02/2021 12:07 am
Jason
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I think for the task at hand - "Telephone" played at the E above middle-C is a dead ringer for the Glenn Miller recording I've listened to.

I would probably just use that and call it quits. Might EQ it to take out some low end (bell strike thudding). But all of that is in the Penn 6-5k tune.

If you need a different telephone sf/x then maybe (something more modern in the digital age - or even different eras before digital) go fishing.

There's at least 2 telephone rings already in MODX - a more modern digital one and the bell one in the "Telephone" Performance. This uses the preset Waveform "TelRing".

If you want to go "crazy" you could setup a drum kit (I started with "Init Drum" ) and replace any of the drum keys (I replaced C1 = "BD" ) with the "TelRing" waveform. I then tune it up +2 semi-tones. I used the AEG (on the level/pan screen) to slightly shorten the time the sample plays before decaying (set decay1 time to 59). Then I went to the 2-band EQ and cut the lows by max and boosted the highs by max. Also - set the "TelRing" drum key to "Rcv Note OFF" to Off so you don't have to hold the key down to have it do a "one shot" ring on its own.

And after this - I press one button and the phone rings for about the right amount of time without having to hold a key down. Sounds right enough to me.

Or just use the "Telephone" Performance as-is and hold a key down for the desired duration. I'd play that "E" - but you may gravitate towards some other pitches.

If I put a Ring Modulator ("Basic" preset) insertion effect on my drum creation - this colors the sound in a nice way without getting "far out". If I turn on the LFO and set the frequency really low with a sine wave and depth of 127 - then I can introduce some random pitch every time I hit the button. Depending on how fast I make the LFO (between dead slow and painfully slow - which, incidentally, is faster than dead slow) then I can either make a randomized starting pitch or make a sound of the telephone bell ringer motor going out or power/cable being bad. When I listen to the recording I have - it sounds like the first phone ring tapers off in pitch. So this sort of creates a way to recreate that for all of the rings.

Not that you have to do any of this crazy stuff. Just saying - it's there to play with should you feel motivated, the need, or otherwise find yourself with an abundance of free time and no idea what to do with it.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 27/02/2021 8:18 am
Jason
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BTW: I'd like to point out that a difference between our approaches is that I relied on [CATEGORY SEARCH] doing a text search without restricting to any particular main/sub-category. I was searching for "teleph" as part of any factory preset's Performance name. If that didn't turn up anything I would have searched for "phone" - but I got there on a first try.

Each Performance can only have one main and one sub category. Many Performances would fit several different categories. Given only one can be assigned - maybe what you search for will miss one of many reasonable candidates for categorization.

I tend to use the main categories more than sub categories for filtering. Sometimes a sub-category if I'm looking for a fairly common instrument of a common type. However, the returns are far from complete as some Performances will have been categorized what seems to be strangely to you. This is why more often than not I will do a search without filtering by main/sub categories. Using "All" for both instead.

Both/all approaches are good/useful. I'm not trying to pick favorites here. You'll need to develop several techniques to find what you're looking for if the well comes up dry the first time.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 27/02/2021 9:02 am
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