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How does Montage address the phasing created in playing the same sample repeatedly?

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 A
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How does montage address the phasing caused by repeatedly hitting the same key (especially in A/E piano samples)? Is it the same as its predecessors or there has been improvements?

 
Posted : 10/04/2016 3:58 pm
 Sam
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How does montage address the phasing caused by repeatedly hitting the same key (especially in A/E piano samples)? Is it the same as its predecessors or there has been improvements?

Some synths, such as the Korg Trident, could be set to only trigger the envelope of the first key that was pressed. So long as that envelope was still in progress, all subsequent notes entered the riff at whatever stage the envelope was at. Alternatively, the switch could be thrown so that every key (up to 8 note polyphony) initiated its own envelope.
Each has its uses. For example a common envelope can be used to enter a filter sweep only if you hold the keys down long enough. Otherwise the sweep remains un-triggered.
The keyboards I've played generally don't give you the option of uniting all envelopes into the initial one. But the fact that subsequent hits on the same note keep triggering new envelopes at different stages also has its uses. Increasing volume is one, Resonating harmonics is another. These are not disadvantages; they're simply characteristics of the instrument that can be worked into compositions.
It's worth noting that acoustic pianos also "suffer" from phasing caused by hitting the same key repeatedly. This is clearly heard in the sympathetic vibrations of other strings, which become increasingly sonorous as the one note is struck again & again. But I don't recall anyone complaining about that (or even noticing it).

 
Posted : 12/04/2016 2:15 pm
 A
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Thanks for the replay Sam. I understand and agree with your point but I believe an acoustic instrument has a (much) wider dynamics compared to a digital instrument and minor improvements can significantly elevate the digital sound quality.

Also, I'm not complaining about it, I'm just interested to see how much the synthesis engine has been improved? Is it exactly the same as MOTIF XS/F or we will see some new features to add more realism? It's just very little information out there about the Montage synthesis engine.

 
Posted : 12/04/2016 3:34 pm
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Hi @A. This is the community coordinator. Thanks for your questions, we'll get back to you shortly.

 
Posted : 14/04/2016 3:31 pm
 Sam
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A wrote:

Thanks for the replay Sam. I understand and agree with your point but I believe an acoustic instrument has a (much) wider dynamics compared to a digital instrument and minor improvements can significantly elevate the digital sound quality.

Also, I'm not complaining about it, I'm just interested to see how much the synthesis engine has been improved? Is it exactly the same as MOTIF XS/F or we will see some new features to add more realism? It's just very little information out there about the Montage synthesis engine.

Hi A. The acoustic instrument only has a wider dynamic range if we don't include the volume pedal. Any synth with a volume pedal & 100W amp has a sub-second dynamic range from zero up to ear drum shattering level!

I agree, minor improvements can elevate sound quality. But remember that many people hanker for the "dirty" and rough sounds of yesteryear instruments, amps & speakers. So, they might call that an 'improvement'. 🙂

 
Posted : 15/04/2016 11:52 am
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