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I have a gig planned in a couple days and the organisers have rented the original Montage 7 as Montage M was unavailable. I created my patch bank for the gig in Montage M esp as I am away from home and the saved file has .Y7L extension. Will I be able to load it in the original montage? I have made sure to not use any new Montage M exclusive AN-X patches etc. Please help me out
Posted : 02/04/2025 7:50 pm
Hello,
A .Y7L is an original MONTAGE extension, so files featuring .Y7L, .Y7U and .Y7A will all load fine, but E.S.P. cannot save a file with that extension. It can only save MONTAGE M file formats:
- Library file (.Y2L)
- User file (.Y2U)
- Backup file (.Y2A)
You cannot load MONTAGE M files into an original MONTAGE: Only the other way around.
This post was modified 1 week ago by Blake Angelos
Posted : 03/04/2025 9:25 pm
Here's an edit ...
An .X7L is an original MONTAGE (classic) extension, so files featuring .X7L, .X7U and .X7A will all load fine, but E.S.P. cannot save a file with that extension. It can only save MONTAGE M file formats:
- Library file (.Y2L)
- User file (.Y2U)
- Backup file (.Y2A)
You cannot load MONTAGE M files into an original MONTAGE: Only the other way around.
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Posted : 04/04/2025 12:36 am
OP said 'saved file has .Y7L extension.' That doesn't square with ESP not being able to save with that extension.
Hopefully OP will explain the disconnect.
Posted : 04/04/2025 12:43 am
Typos aside - the question has been answered. Montage M files cannot be loaded into Montage classic.
Going further ... Soundmondo doesn't have a translator either - looks like it only translates between Montage and MODX (MODX plus) both ways since those are more closely related.
One could hack up a quick and dirty converter that would throw out anything that can't be done and hopefully flag that there's loss. Either a converter of the sysex (like Soundmondo does) or the library/user/all(backup) files.
I take it with the abundance of pros dealing with this issue that something will come in and fill that void. Seems close to a must-have which serves Yamaha as much as serves the users. "Just buy an M" (directed to the backline companies) may be an answer but it seems like playing hardball.
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Posted : 04/04/2025 3:33 am
BTW - one thing you could do assuming you have ESP on a laptop that works reasonably well is that you should be able to USB connect your laptop to the Montage Classic which would be a great controller for ESP. ESP would use USB Audio so you could use the Montage's balanced (or unbalanced) main outputs. That would be a "last resort" suggestion since you'd still have to manage switching to the correct Performance on the laptop which could be cumbersome at the gig vs using live set on the keyboard itself.
Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R
Posted : 04/04/2025 3:39 am
