Given the success of the MODX, I don't think they are in a rush to release anything new.

I've heard that Yamaha's new direction is to offer enhanced software based features to the existing Montage & MODX since it is much less expensive to modify just the software than to design, engineer, test, etc., both new hardware and software. The Montage and MODX may likely go longer than any of the previous Motif series without a new physical model replacement, if they are able to continually provide new features via software on the existing hardware!

I think their next software enhancement release for the Montage should include a Yamaha C7 Grand piano!! 😉

Lots of instrument waveforms/elements worthy of envy on the CP.

Lots of instrument waveforms/elements worthy of envy on the CP.

CP 73/88...?

I've heard that Yamaha's new direction is to offer enhanced software based features to the existing Montage & MODX since it is much less expensive to modify just the software than to design, engineer, test, etc., both new hardware and software. The Montage and MODX may likely go longer than any of the previous Motif series without a new physical model replacement, if they are able to continually provide new features via software on the existing hardware!

I think their next software enhancement release for the Montage should include a Yamaha C7 Grand piano!! 😉

Yes and get rid of the useless sound effects that no one would miss and make room for the Bosendorfer so we don't have to use our allotted user memory for it.

CFX, Bosendorfer, C7... Yamaha's three best.

Given that "useless sound effects" may be the basis for 3rd party libraries or user content people have created for themselves - it's difficult to determine what is something "no one would miss". There's not a great solution here as any way you turn - you end up with a different can of worms. What's easy to do and what has a ripple effect of difficulties is not necessarily obvious.

This is a synth and should have useless sound effects. If you want a piano sound there are already plenty or buy a piano

This is a synth and should have useless sound effects. If you want a piano sound there are already plenty or buy a piano

I agree that synths should maintain the useless sound effects for those who have older patches that utilize them, but I'm paying $5750.00 for a Montage 8 that is a state of the art Synth that should also include the best software based effects on the planet, and also the best pianos and other sounds. I am primarily a piano player who happens to also love synth, organ and other sounds. I feel that if I'm paying that kind of money for the best Synth, I want it to have available more than just 2 pianos with varying versions. So there is always room for more pianos and more than plenty is not too much!
This synth has to compete with Korg's Kronos (& whatever they come out with in the future), as well as Roland, Nord, etc. So Yamaha should add the best pianos, and in particular the C7, giving them some new hype they can use for marketing both the Montage and MODX series keyboards. They have the C7 on the Genos, the CP88, and it should also be a piano on the Montage/MODX as well!

I had added this feature idea/request to YamahaSynth Ideascale a few months back. Hoping it becomes a reality!
https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Yamaha-C7-Grand-Piano-Library-for-Montage-MODX/220797-45978#idea-tab-comments

OK I will agree with these thoughts. I also agree on best fx. wheres the shimmer verb? :p

Also more mod sources and destinations please.

This is a synth and should have useless sound effects. If you want a piano sound there are already plenty or buy a piano

It's Yamaha - the only synth maker that actually makes/owns some of the world's best acoustic grand pianos.

There is a reason the pianos are the very first instruments on the synth (or any) - and a reason the Yamaha synth demonstrators gush over the CFX and Bosendorfer for the Montage/MODX.

They are already making the Bosendorfer available for download into the user memory - would just be nice if we could get them installed and not have to use up the scant memory they give us.

They are already making the Bosendorfer available for download into the user memory - would just be nice if we could get them installed and not have to use up the scant memory they give us.

Makes you wonder just how much onboard memory there really is and what plans they have for the remaining free space..!? If they give us another 'Engine' with a bunch of new presets, that could take some up memory. Maybe they are saving the extra memory for features, enhancements and other patches they have plans for over the next 5 years..!?

It would be great if they gave the Bosendorfer through an update; however I am wondering if larger AWM2 intruments will be provided for user memory only, because of plans they have for the remaining onboard memory..!? Only Yamaha knows how much extra memory is there and what plans they have for it.

As long as they give us the C7, even if in the same way they did the Bosendorfer, I will be more than happy! 😉

Come on guys! From a practical sound producer's point of view the Montage contains enough stuff to emulate any piano ever made, as well as create new ones no-one's ever heard - but it also contains many weird noises of no value to a practical sound producer (other than curiosity) which are presumably useful to a musician?

By 'practical' I mean playable and scaleable rather than evolving or soundscapes, which I have to be in the mood for. Not often!

The on-board memory is very small, compensated for by USBs - adequate but time-consuming. The Bosendorfer stays on the USB - far too greedy in waveform terms to be of much practical value 99% of the time - it is a lesson in authenticity to a sound producer, or a beautiful instrument to a musician. Much the same applies to the CP1. I do admire authenticity but rarely aim for it myself. Cheap and cheerful, perhaps - but Montage provides the tools for both, in abundance.

I can struggle with a sound for half a day - more - and feel simply overwhelmed by the sheer mass of variation available. How can I ever get it right? I hardly ever do, of course - I don't regard any of my sounds as 'finished' - they're all 'work in progress'.

Further updates, for me, should concentrate on the use of loading and saving to and from USBs - ability to simply add a sound to a Library, or select which sounds should be used to create a Library, rather than the current 'all or nothing' approach (which is workable, but complex and time consuming).

I'd like to see them add real time feedback on the display when you adjust say the cutoff or or attack ect ect knobs. anything on the tone row I find it odd that it does not update the displayed parameter when you do but works when the knobs are in EQ/FX or ARP/MS mode.

I'd like to see them add real time feedback on the display when you adjust say the cutoff or or attack ect ect knobs. anything on the tone row I find it odd that it does not update the displayed parameter when you do but works when the knobs are in EQ/FX or ARP/MS mode.

When you are actually, directly, adjusting a parameter, the value will animate, when you are applying an offset value, you only see the amount of the offset as +/- a general amount.

Without exaggeration applying an offset to CUTOFF, for example, could be changing as many as eight different Filter Cutoff parameters in a single Part. Each of these filters could be different type (there are 18 Filter Types to choose from) some might be Low Pass, some High Pass, others Band Pass, Band Eliminate, some are ‘dual filters’ etc., etc., and therefore could be even moving in opposite directions (even). And most certainly would be changing the Cutoff Frequency differently for each... some 6dB/oct, some 12dB/oct, others 18 or even 24dB/oct.

One of the main differences between a Synthesizer like your MONTAGE and traditional analog-type synth engines (where all oscillators traverse the same one filter) is that each Oscillator source (Element) is a complete equivalent to the routing through the analog synth; Osc > Filter > Amp

When the “Quick Edit” CUTOFF Knob is Set to COMMON, you might be changing scores and scores of cutoff frequencies - different filter types, all simultaneously. No exaggeration, a Drum Kit Part features 73 Filters (each Key has its own Filter), a Normal AWM2 Part as many as 8 Filters one per oscillator.

The parameters that animate directly, are those applied directly...you are adjusting parameters that they all share... (although each Part can have its on Part EQ) The EQ/FX, ARP/MS are applied in a way that (similar to an analog synth) where all data goes thru it together.

It’s a feature!