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Only 8 arpeggiators can play at the same time???

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ok this is frustrating.. i had a great groove going with 8 arps and i was ready to create a 9th arp when i realize that the montage wouldn't let me?? i thought the montage is 16 parts with 16 arps?? anyway is it possible to hook another Montage to each other so i have an additional 8 parts of arp playing at the same time?

 
Posted : 13/05/2018 7:39 pm
Bad Mister
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Let’s hear it!

 
Posted : 14/05/2018 1:52 am
Jason
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You're right - only 8 PARTs can have the PART-level "ARP On" turned on. Any combination of 8 will remove toggle button once 8 PARTs have ARPs turned on.

I did a test with no notes - I just used ARPs to apply movement to the Assignable Knob 1 for each PART. If you want to use ARPs on every PART simultaneously (even for non-note events) - you cannot.

This is an area, I presume, that the Montage would expect/require an external device (like a DAW, software sequencer, another keyboard, or a dedicated hardware sequencer) would take on the role of automating an arpeggio so you could use all 16 PARTs - but leverage the arpeggio resources of an external device.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 14/05/2018 3:38 am
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the funny thing is I couldn't find a reference anywhere in the Yamaha manuals that mentions this limit! Anywhere BadMister I would play my music for you when I am as good as you πŸ™‚

 
Posted : 14/05/2018 11:56 am
Bad Mister
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the funny thing is I couldn't find a reference anywhere in the Yamaha manuals that mentions this limit!

see the Specifications on page 63 of your Owners Manual.
See the very first mention of Arpeggios on page 24 β€œUsing the Arpeggio Function”.

Once you record using Arpeggiators the data is printed to the MIDI Track, you can reuse the Arpeggiators- so it is a maximum of 8 Arps at a time. Through the process of overdubbing you can use the Arpeggiators again and again...

 
Posted : 14/05/2018 1:23 pm
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Once you record using Arpeggiators the data is printed to the MIDI Track, you can reuse the Arpeggiators- so it is a maximum of 8 Arps at a time. Through the process of overdubbing you can use the Arpeggiators again and again...

Yes but i would have to introduce a daw in my setup.. was hoping to create full tracks on the Montage alone without using a computer..

 
Posted : 14/05/2018 3:13 pm
Jason
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Montage's design is to become more tethered to a computer for many tasks vs. Motif. Your hope is not aligned with the current strategy.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 12:21 am
Leon
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Montage was made to work with cubase that why is no sequencer included I guess you knew that before you bought Montage or no?
I got Kronos for that reason and kept Montage as well because no other keyboard have so many arps simple as that.

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 8:15 pm
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