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hi guys,
Can i use my gaming headset microphone to check if input A/D is working well. (testing vocoder and effects)
i own the SENNHEISER g4me Zero headset.( so it has a microphone + phones )
i wanna test this to see if my montage is Running good before i buy a real dynamic microphone
im a bit nOob about microphones...:)
thx for awnsers 🙂

 
Posted : 19/01/2019 5:52 pm
Bad Mister
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Probably not, as you likely already know... we say probably because we don’t know the configuration of the connector on your gaming headset/mic. The A/D In on the synth wants to see a TS (Tip-Sleeve) connector. Usually “gaming” headset/mics have non-typical connectors for both the mic and the headphone portions. Simplify!

What you can do
In [UTILITY] > “Settings” > “Audio I/O” > Set the MIC/LINE = MIC
Take a Standard headphone, in spite of its TRS (Tip-Ring-Sleeve) connector, the Input will ignore the Ring... plug the headphone jack into the Left A/D Input, and speak directly into the Left earpiece. (Only one earpiece will work because of the jack incompatibility).

This works because a speaker and a dynamic microphone are the opposite of one another. They are both ”transducers”. One takes air molecules in motion and induces electrons to flow, the other takes electrons flowing and induces air molecules to move.

So the better the headphone, the better microphone it makes. Obviously the diagraphm of the headphone earpiece takes a bit of effort to move so it is not a very good microphone but good enough to test your A/D Input!

Hope that helps

 
Posted : 19/01/2019 7:26 pm
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Hello everyone,
Thanx for your anwser Bad Mister 🙂
Can you tell me if i can use this microphone pls
https://www.thomann.de/gb/shure_wh20tqg.htm?ref=intl&shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6IjIiLCJsYW5ndWFnZSI6ImVuIn0%3D
i would like to use a headset microphone for my yamaha montage.
if you have better than this one would be appreciated
ty very much

 
Posted : 20/01/2019 1:01 pm
Bad Mister
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A Dynamic mic that Outputs to a Standard 3-pin XLR; Sorry, I don’t know the mic you reference. But I’m sure there are headset mics that have Standard XLR male output; then you’ll need a cable with a XLR female to 1/4" mono jack. ( https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_fxp1009_audiokabel.htm)

Get whatever length you need... the Shure SM10A is widely used by keyboard players, drummers, etc (hands-free situations)... and I’m pretty sure (pun intended) it ends in the male XLR out. Then you use the cable linked above (or one like it) to connect to the MONTAGE.

 
Posted : 20/01/2019 3:41 pm
Darryl
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A Dynamic mic that Outputs to a Standard 3-pin XLR; Sorry, I don’t know the mic you reference. But I’m sure there are headset mics that have Standard XLR male output; then you’ll need a cable with a XLR female to 1/4" mono jack. ( https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_fxp1009_audiokabel.htm)

Get whatever length you need... the Shure SM10A is widely used by keyboard players, drummers, etc (hands-free situations)... and I’m pretty sure (pun intended) it ends in the male XLR out. Then you use the cable linked above (or one like it) to connect to the MONTAGE.

I read somewhere that using a Transformer, such as the 'Shure A85F Transformer', will give the mic a boost in gain more than just a standard XLR to 1/4" TS mono cable...does anyone know if there is some truth to this?

On Shure's site it says:

Line Matching Transformer: The Shure A85F is a low-to-high impedance microphone-matching transformer that provides 24 dB of signal increase gain.
http://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/microphones/microphone-problem-solvers/a85f-line-matching-transformer

Would this make a difference for plugging a Dynamic mic into the Montage for vocoder triggering, compared to using a standard XLR to 1/4" TS mono cable?

Also, would the following headset mic be a good choice to use for triggering the vocoder? :

Shure WH20XLR Dynamic Headset Microphone - (Wired) Includes 3-pin Male XLR Connector
http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/other/wh20-dynamic-headset-microphones

 
Posted : 12/02/2019 9:12 pm
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