When you hold down the shift button do you also press the scene button? That is how you register the "snapshot" to the scene buttons.

By the way from the reference manual the following parameters can be stored as a scene :

Arpeggio, Motion Sequencer, Super Knob, Mixing, Amplitude EG, and Arp/MS FX

To use the scene buttons to switch between parts you would store the mute/unmute status of the parts you wish to affect as separate scenes.

By the way are the "instruments" you are switching between single parts or multi parts? If they are single parts it might be simpler to select them using the part control buttons.

You have a lot of control over what does or does not get saved in each scene. With great power comes great responsibility. From the Performance screen choose the Scene submenu. Here you control what does or does not get saved ("memorized"). As noted shift+Scene Button is the quick way to register the scene. This brief YouTube video may help:

Scenes

Hello guys, and sorry, it doesn't work. I'm using a multi-part trumpet I've created by merging 3 pre-set ones, and tinkering with them (reverb on one, chorus on another etc), then storing the whole thing as a new User Performance. The piece I'm attempting calls for a one octave down-shift, so I simply held down 'Shift' and pressed Scene 1 - OK. Then I down-shifted one octave, held down 'Shift' and pressed Scene 2. OK. Only Scene 1 down-shifted as well. When I cancel out the octave (both lights out) - both Scenes also change. I want Scene 1 to be standard, and Scene 2 to down-shift one octave.

Unfortunately the transpose buttons are not something that get stored in a scene. What you need to do is to copy your 3 existing parts to 3 free slots in the performance then note shift each by - 12 (Part Setting Pitch Note Shift) . Mute these new parts with the mute switches then register that to scene 1.Then reverse the situation - mute parts 1-3 and unmute parts 4-6 and register this to scene 2. You can then call up each set of parts using the appropriate scene button.

I do apologise, I meant to say thank you for your answers, which indeed confirmed what I thought, so why doesn't it work? My trumpet only takes up 5 Parts. I admit I had not looked in the Reference Manual - didn't expect to, it should be in the Owner's Manual. I would expect all parameters to be 'On' by default - not 'Off', so maybe that's the problem. I'll look into it again when next I fire up, and thanks again.

The scene buttons are specific to each performance and relate only the parts in that performance. The transpose buttons however are global in that they affect every performance so that explains why their status can't be stored with the scene buttons.

When you say your trumpet only takes up 5 parts does that mean that you need all 5 of these parts to move down by an octave? If that's the case then the method I gave you won't be applicable as you can only have a maximum of 8 parts under keyboard control - ie when you need numerous parts to play simultaneously.

The same can be achieved though by using XA control at the element level of the sounds but it is a more involved process and also depends on how many individual elements each of your parts uses.

Many thanks Phil (I see my last post crossed with your last-but-one!). OK, there is a physical limitation in this case. For my immediate purpose I can just hit the 'Transpose' button as easily as the 'Scene 2' button, but not far down the line I see other changes that will make this impractical while playing, and the limit of 8 Parts may be a snag, so I suppose I could create another new Performance incorporating the changes required, and 'save' that to Scene 2? Would that be an alternative to muting and un-muting? Would I be right in thinking of the 'Scene' buttons in much the same way as the 'Registration' buttons of the Tyros? Except they wouldn't remember the settings, and would need to be re-set up every time that particular piece came up.

I don't know how others work, probably the same way as me, but I create instrumentation to suit each piece of music (that's my greatest interest), and on Tyros they were simply held as 'Registrations' - but on Montage I can group my new Performances together as 'Live Sets' (having first stored them in the User areas of the first Part categories), then recall them to Scenes as required. That seems a workable solution. Unless there's something you know that I don't? (speaking purely of this one scenario! What you know and I don't would otherwise exceed the capacity of this computer ... )

Hello Sidney, and thank you or the video! I now have the full set of them - they are excellent, to say the least (if a bit quick! One has to be at the Montage and keep your wits about you!). Being more familiar with the Tyros, I find it easier to make things conform to how Tyros does it, which might sound weird but it works for me!

I think you may be misinterpreting how the scene buttons work. They are specific to each performance - ie each performance can have up to 8 snapshots of different states of that performance (incorporating Arpeggio, Motion Sequencer, Super Knob, Mixing, Amplitude EG, and Arp/MS FX) that can be recalled by pressing the appropriate button and this gets saved with the performance itself.

Hello Phil - Ah! You could call that a Major Snag! So there is no practical way to make instrument changes during the playing of a piece, except by using Live Sets?

It depends very much on what you are trying to achieve - could you give me details of the exact situation?

I'm sorry Phil, I was called away again and have only just got back to my office. I'm not with the Montage, but wanted to get back to you asap as I've been out all afternoon ... I'm playing with 'Fanfare for the Common Man' - just the RH brass - and want to introduce a change of timbre, the simplest being to drop an octave (which I thought I could do as a Scene). Another change might be to chorus another trumpet - for which I can see your mute - unmute method working OK - or even fifth it - again, mute/unmute would work. But as I return to it from time to time, it would be quicker to create new Performances, store them, and then put them into Live Sets as a group. I think?

Things get a lot more complicated after that breathtaking RH intro though. Along the lines of ELP (Montreal 1972 I think) - Emerson's chord progressions are OK (another Performance on Live Sets), but the LH I think will need to be a specific arpeggio creation to try and capture that unique 'train' beat dreamed up by Palmer. Then there's Lake's guitar in there somewhere. Haven't got round to that yet. So that's where I'm at, looking for the smoothest way to swap instrumentation during a play session. And repeatable at will. Hence Live Sets?

There are several ways to transition sounds...

From the article on Performances and Live Sets.......

Seamless Sound Switching, [PART SELECT] Transitions, and Synth Programming

SSS works between large KBD CTRL Multis (8) Part Performances. But also know you can switch seamlessly between single Parts within a Performance via the [PART SELECT] buttons. And for those of you who program, you can create a sound that morphs between Elements/Operators, morphs between PARTs and does exactly what you need for the specific transition you require. Knowing which will work for you will be important.

SSS is specifically for overhanging one sound (hold/sustain) while you switch to a new sound and begin playing it without cutting off the first sound. Knowing how to use this is a skill worth a few minutes time to master. This can be done via the screen, buttons or even with a foot switch.

Part Select transitions are handled strictly by the front panel buttons and allows you to instantly play the newly selected Part, while you can still hold/sustain the previous PART. These [PART SELECT] buttons are the fastest way to transition between two factory Preset sounds. There will be no hesitation or sonic glitch whatever using the select buttons. press the [PART CONTROL] function to switch the top two rows of buttons to direct PART SELECT 1-16 buttons.

Synth Programming the MONTAGE has the ability to transition sounds simply in the programming. In fact, many of the factory Presets show this off to great affect, the Choir-to-Choir/Strings-to Choir/Strings/Pipe Organ is pretty dramatic. You can have one sound morph into another, morph in to many (ensemble), or smoothly switch using the Motion Control Engine to morph sounds and/or the innovative XA Control (Expanded Articulation Control) which was designed to be musically invisible when transitioning (AWM2) Elements.

The other information you would need Rod is how the use of arpeggios fits into your work scheme. For instance if you have an arpeggio playing within a performance what happens when you change to a new performance?