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 Romi
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On my Motif XS7 and I’m trying to get it into my Logic Pro X to recreate some things and add vocals and complete, my question is how do I accomplish this? Do I have to record audio using 1/4 inch cable into interface or is there a better or simpler way if I have 16 tracks in the sequence?

 
Posted : 22/11/2017 1:37 am
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Missing from your post are the words MIDI and AUDIO. We assume when you say you have a “sequenced Track” that you are referring to 16 MIDI Tracks recorded to the sequencer of the Motif XS.

MIDI cannot travel through a 1/4” cable. It can travel through a USB cable or a FW cable. Or at least those are your two options with a Motif XS.

To transfer the Audio that the Motif XS generates in response to the MIDI messages you need an audio interface. The XS can be an audio interface if you have the FW16E (FireWire) expansion. If not, you’ll need an external audio interface to take two (left/right) 1/4” cables from the XS and two 1/4” cables to route signal from the audio interface to your monitor speakers.

There is another option if you have Sample RAM (DIMMs) installed in your XS. You can mixdown right in the XS and export a .wav File which you can transfer to your computer on a usb stick. Do you have DIMMs installed?

 
Posted : 22/11/2017 11:45 am
 Romi
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Yes I have dimms but I have a lot better fx plugins on my Mac I think but I also have an interface with the stereo connection from my XS but I was trying to get the clear understanding of what to do to get my sequence over to rehash it in Logic Pro X.
Are you saying usb Midi would be sending keys data to Logic and using the sounds in my Logic or other plugins to get sound but it’ll just be playing sequenced key data previously played on XS but using the Logic sounds to render the audio out of the speakers?

 
Posted : 22/11/2017 2:46 pm
 Romi
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Oh and it’s been a long time bad mister I use to be on here a lot when I first got my XS years ago

 
Posted : 22/11/2017 2:49 pm
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Are you saying usb Midi would be sending keys data to Logic and using the sounds in my Logic or other plugins to get sound but it’ll just be playing sequenced key data previously played on XS but using the Logic sounds to render the audio out of the speakers?

No, I am definitely NOT saying that. You can move the MIDI event data over to Logic easily enough, and you can have that MIDI data trigger the sounds of the XS. The XS then sends audio out to your audio interface which captures the audio in Logic.

The advantage here is you get the high quality sound of the XS - that’s what you want.

To move your sequence data from the XS to Logic, simply SAVE the Song as a Standard MIDI File (SMF) this file format .mid can be read by any Sequencer, including Logic. Put the file on a USB stick and open it in Logic. Map each Logic Track to the appropriate PART of your Motif XS Mixing Setup.

 
Posted : 22/11/2017 4:51 pm
 Romi
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So I guess I can also ask this why not just save it as a WAV or AIFF file on jump drive then open it up in Logic Pro Instead of doing the midi transfer?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:52 pm
 Romi
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Another thing in my XS I sequenced using pattern with sections so that while performing I can go back to chorus then bridge etc and so I needed to save them as midi files in those sections to recreate the track how I need it to be in Logic for vocal recording but how do I get all the 6-8 sections in one project separate?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:12 pm
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So I guess I can also ask this why not just save it as a WAV or AIFF file on jump drive then open it up in Logic Pro Instead of doing the midi transfer?

Your initial post led us to believe you wanted to move the MIDI data to “Logic Pro X to recreate some things and add vocals” ... you would move the data as MIDI if you wish to continue to create or edit the data. The fundamental advantage of having the data as MIDI is ...you can change your mind! While the data is MIDI you can change you mind about the instrument playing it, you can correct notes, you can change stuff

Once you commit to audio you are locked in (to some degree) to the choices you have made.

Now either is available, either option is simple enough to do. It is clearly YOUR CHOICE. You can easily export your data as a MIDI or you can just as easily export it as Audio. My recommendation is to learn to do both. They are both skills you will want to be able to do whenever necessary.

Don’t make the decision based on one being easier or harder than the other. In both instances you set it up, and you play it back. And you have your result. To some one listening to you create the .mid or the .wav it will appear and sound exactly the same. It is simply a routing issue and file creation.

Again consider whether or not you will want to change your mind. If when adding vocals you want to change how loud the piano is compared to the guitar, if it’s .mid data you transferred, no problem... but if you’ve mixdown the XS data as a .wav, you cannot change the relationship of piano to guitar. Make sense?

Another thing in my XS I sequenced using pattern with sections so that while performing I can go back to chorus then bridge etc and so I needed to save them as midi files in those sections to recreate the track how I need it to be in Logic for vocal recording but how do I get all the 6-8 sections in one project separate?

Thats true, each Section of your XS Pattern Sequence needs to be dealt with separately.

You can either make separate .mid files for each Section, then you would need to place them one after the other in your DAW. I imagine Logic Pro lets you import these to specific measures. Sorry I don’t know Logic Pro...

In Cubase, for example you could drag and drop each to whatever measure and then use the Arrange Track to set up Sections which can be triggered exactly as you were doing in the XS Pattern Mode.

If Logic does not allow such importing, you can create a linear structure in your XS... create a PATTERN CHAIN that has Section A, B, C, D, E etc one after the other, next Convert this Chain to a linear XS SONG... then you can recreate and divide it into Sections once imported to Logic.

 
Posted : 24/11/2017 12:16 pm
 Romi
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Now is there a way to take and copy the entire XS sound library into Logic as a plug-in? Bcuz some sounds I would love to keep but one of the issues I’m having is being able to trigger the sequence on time to record audio in on time not doing it by pressing the Logic record button and timing pressing the play button on the XS so that it matches perfectly, I have multiple controller devices connect to my Mac including the XS and for some reason having trouble configuring it to handle all devices so I really don’t have to use my Mac keyboard

 
Posted : 25/11/2017 4:20 am
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Now is there a way to take and copy the entire XS sound library into Logic as a plug-in?

No, and that is NOT what you want to do next. Trust me on this...

Bcuz some sounds I would love to keep but one of the issues I’m having is being able to trigger the sequence on time to record audio in on time not doing it by pressing the Logic record button and timing pressing the play button on the XS so that it matches perfectly, I have multiple controller devices connect to my Mac including the XS and for some reason having trouble configuring it to handle all devices so I really don’t have to use my Mac keyboard

You want to setup your system so that you can work like a pro... I am confident that the word “Pro” in Logic Pro X means that it is designed to handle your setup properly and can record your data so that you can work like the “pros”.

Your next task is to *learn to configure your Logic Pro* so that it accommodates what you need to accomplish. I am not a Logic user and cannot claim to know everything about it, but we can provide a general setup guide here that will help you with basics.

First, you need an audio interface that has all your external Synthesizers and modules connected to its inputs... the Audio Interface is how you will get audio from each external synth into your computer and ultimately into Logic Pro.

The Audio Interface will need to be connected to a pair of quality Monitor speakers. The audio interface is also responsible for getting audio out of the computer and to your monitor speakers.

This is essential for you to be able to get audio into and back out of the computer in a musically timely fashion. You will need to use the low latency ASIO Driver recommended for your particular Audio Interface. Typically onboard audio drivers are NOT sufficient for recording and playing back (they are good for playback only)

In general, you have three tasks you will be performing
RECORD - All data is coming IN to the computer
OVERDUB - Some Data is coming IN while some is playing back
MIXDOWN -All data is playing back.

Where you require low latency and timing compensation, is when you are “overdubbing” - you are listening to the data and you are playing along with it, adding new data that must be placed in time with that recorded data. The Built-in Audio Driver is horrible at that... and is why you need an external Audio Interface to handle Input and Output for your computer.

When properly configured, hitting the space bar on the computer will start the Motif XS - you can Synchronize the clocks... set Logic Pro as the Master clock, set the Motif XS as the slave to MIDI clock. Set Sequencer Control to IN/Out... you can actually use the XS transport buttons to start and stop Logic Pro.

You must synchronize the clocks... pressing both start buttons simultaneously WILL NOT WORK! Stop doing that... when configured properly, the two will run in perfect synchronization, both will play when you start either one, both will stop when you stop either one, and both will run in exact synchronization at all times. If you fast forward or rewind one, the other will go automatically to the correct Measure. Let’s get you configured properly!

We’ll start simply...
What is your Audio Interface?

 
Posted : 25/11/2017 8:38 am
 Romi
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Hey thanks for info but I have everything hooked up correctly I believe but I have 2 audio interfaces both Focusrite’s Pro 40, and my main master is the Thunderbolt Clarett, I have them connected Adat with fiber optic cables out and in, I have my XS connected USB direct to my Mac also midi out option from XS into the midi in on Clarett interface, and audio into interface using 1/4 in. Patch cables stereo, I have M-Audio trigger finger pro USB connected direct to Mac, Softube Console 1 USB direct to Mac and Yamaha Monitors

 
Posted : 26/11/2017 2:43 am
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