I wouldn’t expect to see the driver in the second screenshot.

In the first screenshot (Programs and Features) I see you have Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver 1.10.0 (that is not what I ask for, but does tell us the version you have installed)

Check, I think there is a later version (just for fun, although I don’t think it is the issue but you should check and update to the latest Driver when attempting to troubleshoot). 1.10.1 is the latest... just FYI.

Please, if you can, instead of the screenshots you provided, please, please go to CONTROL PANEL > HARDWARE and SOUND > find the icon for “Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver” > double click it to open the Control Panel while connected to your instrument. Thank you.

I am sorry but I REALLY can not find the driver as mentioned. I know it is danish in my version but I can not find the driver, neither when searching at the start button( the search button out at the front of windows where the main menu is).

As said I see it under installed programs when entering the location where we go to delete/uninstall programs. But under control panel wherewe see all he hardware etc. I don't find any yamaha driver. Hell I made websites years ago, but this puzzled me. I am a musician by heart, no techie.

Ok I still need to install the latest verdion. I will get back with news. Now night here.

Can you show the screenshot?

Control Panel > Hardware and Sound

I believe I did. "Enheder til lyd, video og spil". One of the screenshots. There is NVIDEA as one of the units. I wished I had it in English. Usually I try to keep it all in English.

I think we are pretty much commercial slaves of new versions with new bugs. If it hadn't been for that money machine things would work today. Too many people earning on fixing things that don' t need no fixing.

Definately NOT talking about Yamaha or Steinberg. This is my 6th Yamaha piano. I swear by Yamaha. The sound is unparallelled.

I suppose I have just been spoiled with the ease of arranger keyboards before I took this important leap to the Synth world that forced me to use a USB connection. Before I just used a FLASH drive and recorded between 10-20 times, then picked the best version of me singing and playing. Straight to wav/audio.

I believe I did.

No you haven’t. Not yet.

Kontrolpanel > hardware og lyd

I realize it may be different... but if you see the NVIDIA icon, what screen is that on?... this is near where a properly installed Panel for “Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver” would appear...

Here is what I am looking for

Control Panel
Control Panel > Hardware and Software
Yamaha Steinberg Usb Driver > three tabes MOXF/ASIO/ABOUT

Hi, thanks for the answers :-). I see that clearly the driver has not been recognized by the system. Strange because it already shows as an installed program when I look at the place where to remove programs seen as the last screen print.

I will go back in the thread since I got away from this, and read to see if I need to do something more.

Thank You
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Hi, I resolved it. I uninstalled the driver version 1.10.0. I noticed that it said prompted me to "FInish" in order to install it, perhaps indicating that the installation had not been complete (don't even know if that is possible?).

I installed the most recent driver 1.10.1. FOllowed the guidelines and had it recognized, got the icon near the NVIDEA icon. I have proceeded with the basic guide to do a recording. HOwever despite having chosen "2stereo", when looking at the "VST connections" in the "Studio " top menu point (in mine called Audio COnnections), then there are not 4 ports and two stereos but only one (see screen print).

Anyway I hope that I found the "VST connections". Else please tell me if I am wrong. Here is the danish menu screen shot.

Click on “ADD BUS” > add a Stereo Bus > Set it to MOXF6/MOXF8 USB 3 and 4

I have now reached to the point where I have recorded some Audio, and have been able to listen to the playback of the recording in CUbase.

I understand I have to turn up the daw "Level" meter on the MOXF to get any gain from the DAW returned to the MOXF and thus the speakers. WHat puzzles me is that now I have to turn off the TANNED monitor button in the track in Cubase in order to listen to it through the speakers (I use headphones but the same right)? Once turned on as before having recorded it, the sound dissapears.

I have attached a screen print.

Please explain thanks
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The tan Monitor Speaker icon is for “live” audio coming into the Cubase Audio Track

If you wish to play on the MOXF Keys (without going into Record) and want to hear yourself (live) you would click ON the tan Monitor Speaker icon. When you want to playback the Audio recorded to the track you do not click the Monitor Speaker icon.

Make sense?
When you turn the Speaker icon On, you can play on the MOXF and hear it.
When you turn the Speaker icon Off, you can playback the audio of that Track.

THanks for the help. I have now completed your second Audio Tutorial including a mic track. NIce and easy.

I have two Mic recording related questions: (UPDATE! PLease read my follow up in the next comment)

1) REverb while recording: Is it true I can NOT hear the reverb effect WHILE singing and recording it (when using the mic on the discreet stereo 1/2 input), since the DAW level needs to be silenced so I hear the mic directly through the speakers and NOT through Cubase WHere the insertion effects are? I have attached a screen print to show where I am at. Is that correct? I got to there through: "Inspector" -> "mic" -> "E" (edit channel settings). In there I chose "Insertion effects" -> REverb (where I only found the one in the screen print. I have no clue how to easily get the right reverb effect, apart from being unsure if this is how to go along with adding insertion effects like reverb to the A/D input(mic).

I hear the reverb when playing back but am used to tracking/recording while listening to the effect. I remember you wrote elsewhere that adding the effect post recording is usual. HOwever I like being inspired by hearing how the end result will be apart from adjusting the mixing volumes etc.

2) Mobile/TLf karaoke input in A/D in R along with MIC in A/D in L: When recording my singing using A/D input in the Left plug, I have ALSO attached a mobile to the right A/D in, plus selecting LRMONO under UTILITY instead of just L Mono as in the tutorial. I have now recorded like this but unsure if it is the right way to do it ( I guess the telephone input into A/D in is mono instead of the original split into stereo), since I only use one phono plug (mini jack) from the mobile phone).

As seen from the TLF karaoke recording screen print, I have used the stereo R as input, respectively Stereo L for the Mic (A/D in L).
Now I have also experimented with creating a mono bus and used that input bus for both the A/D in R (Tlf) and the A/D in L (Mic). Still there is no differentiation. THe A/D in L and R are mixed into one signal for both tracks.

I guess with this setup I can only differentiate the signal from the mobile/karaoke from the microphone by turning down/up on the phone, since as far as I reckon those two inputs are being mixed (because the signals/levers in the mixer (mic and TLF (telephone) are similar see screen print 2).

HOw would one preserve the mobile stereo signal: A splitter from a phono (mini jack) plug into a double phono inserted into the A/D left and right, then record the Youtube track to an audio track, and then dub the vocals later (with the mic in the A/D with UTILITY -> LMONO while replaying the recorded Karaoke song?

Or should I get/insert/input the Youtube karaoke from within Cubase instead (if that is possible), instead of through the MOXF?

REgards
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Oh, I found a solution to the karaoke thing. I downloaded a videofile from Youtube, imported the VIDEO file into Cubase, from which I double clicked one thumbnail so I can read the karaoke text while the audio plays back from another track and I record my singing to a third track. So the video and the extract of audio from the video /MP4 are synchronized (simply imported into an audio track and a video track respectively. Le VOila :p See the Screen shot

I also found that I can use the reverb on the MOXF8 by changing to 1StereoRec instead of 2 Stereo in UTILITY -> USB I/O, Since I am overdubbing an audio track with the backing/karaoke, and not using the PARTS from the MOXF8 in which case 2Stereo (with Stereo 1/2 and Stereo 3/4 is redundant, not necessary.

I think you have mentioned this before as an option Bad Mister 😀

HOwever now we are at it...Is there any problem with delay of my singing doing it like this: I have to turn up the DAW level for the audio of the karaoke song in Cubase to hear it play back on the piano/monitors? My singing comes as audio from the piano and I think does not go back to the piano since the TAn monitor button is off. So there should not be two signals/double sound, BUT maybe a delay compared to the audio playback/karaoke??? Haven't really gotten into these technicalities yet, so just a wild guess.

I hear the cubase audio track play back travelling from the pc to the MOXF8. WHEn I hear it I sing in tune. However my singing must be delayed compared to the playback in Cubase where the recording also takes place (that is unless the creators made it so that the audio playback sound recorded is later than the sound in the monitors/headphones. The delay of the singing compared to the audio playback in Cubase seems like two times the distance between Moxf8 and Cubase, when being overly intuitive.

1) REverb while recording: Is it true I can NOT hear the reverb effect WHILE singing and recording it (when using the mic on the discreet stereo 1/2 input), since the DAW level needs to be silenced so I hear the mic directly through the speakers and NOT through Cubase WHere the insertion effects are? I have attached a screen print to show where I am at. Is that correct? I got to there through: "Inspector" -> "mic" -> "E" (edit channel settings). In there I chose "Insertion effects" -> REverb (where I only found the one in the screen print. I have no clue how to easily get the right reverb effect, apart from being unsure if this is how to go along with adding insertion effects like reverb to the A/D input(mic).

I hear the reverb when playing back but am used to tracking/recording while listening to the effect. I remember you wrote elsewhere that adding the effect post recording is usual. HOwever I like being inspired by hearing how the end result will be apart from adjusting the mixing volumes etc.

It is not true, you CAN apply Reverb to your incoming A/D Input Signal if you so desire. It is really up to you.

What I was mentioning is that the traditional method of studio recording is to wait until the final mixdown to actually *print* the Reverb. Problem is that the amount of Reverb that typically makes the singer comfortable to sing (for inspiration) winds up being the wrong amount for the final product. So typically they setup the system so the singer can ‘monitor’ reverberation in the headphone mix but that Reverb is not printed to the audio track during the initial recording session. The Reverb is only in the Monitor Mix.

This is complicated routing but can be setup using the MOXF and Cubase.
Alternative method is to apply a MOXF Reverb to the A/D Input Part as an Insertion Effect.

So there are at least two methods of using Reverb on your A/D Input as you Record... the former let’s you ‘monitor’ the Reverb without printing it to your audio track, the latter lets you use the Reverb but it is documented to the audio track via USB 1/2.

You do not have to work in any particular way, it is up to you. If you know that the amount of Reverb you apply is going to be fine in the final product, you can simply opt to record with Reverberation... by setting it as an Insertion Effect on the A/D Input Part you will benefit from the input being isolated in its own Reverb chamber.

2) Mobile/TLf karaoke input in A/D in R along with MIC in A/D in L: When recording my singing using A/D input in the Left plug, I have ALSO attached a mobile to the right A/D in, plus selecting LRMONO under UTILITY instead of just L Mono as in the tutorial. I have now recorded like this but unsure if it is the right way to do it ( I guess the telephone input into A/D in is mono instead of the original split into stereo), since I only use one phono plug (mini jack) from the mobile phone).

As seen from the TLF karaoke recording screen print, I have used the stereo R as input, respectively Stereo L for the Mic (A/D in L).
Now I have also experimented with creating a mono bus and used that input bus for both the A/D in R (Tlf) and the A/D in L (Mic). Still there is no differentiation. THe A/D in L and R are mixed into one signal for both tracks.

I guess with this setup I can only differentiate the signal from the mobile/karaoke from the microphone by turning down/up on the phone, since as far as I reckon those two inputs are being mixed (because the signals/levers in the mixer (mic and TLF (telephone) are similar see screen print 2).

HOw would one preserve the mobile stereo signal: A splitter from a phono (mini jack) plug into a double phono inserted into the A/D left and right, then record the Youtube track to an audio track, and then dub the vocals later (with the mic in the A/D with UTILITY -> LMONO while replaying the recorded Karaoke song?

Sorry, I don’t know what “Mobile/TLf karaoke” is or what it is supposed to represent in this scenario.

When talking about the A/D input on the MOXF, we like to say it is one input capable of a mono or a stereo input. (Certainly not both). We are often asked if you can use it as two mono inputs... and the answer always has an asterisk - as long as the two devices are of the same output level (because you can only set Gain for a single input)... it’s one input, you can plug in a mono or a stereo input.

If you have plug in two separate devices you do NOT have separate controls for input level... you do not have separate routing options. The two signals will either be merged, “L+R”, or routed in “Stereo”, Left to the lower number, Right to the higher numbered bus.

I am at a disadvantage because you assume I know something about this karaoke device, sorry, I have no idea what it is or how you would use it in this scenario. Sorry.

Depending on the YouTube video file type, you should consult your Cubase Operation Guide, as I’m sure you can EXTRACT the audio from a video without having to adapt mini phono jacks to the inputs of the MOXF (when you find yourself using adapters do so only after exhausting easier methods). If the audio is already on the computer find a way to import it to your Project. In Cubase click on Help... search the Operation Manual for “Extract Audio from video file”...

HOwever now we are at it...Is there any problem with delay of my singing doing it like this: I have to turn up the DAW level for the audio of the karaoke song in Cubase to hear it play back on the piano/monitors? My singing comes as audio from the piano and I think does not go back to the piano since the TAn monitor button is off. So there should not be two signals/double sound, BUT maybe a delay compared to the audio playback/karaoke??? Haven't really gotten into these technicalities yet, so just a wild guess.

I hear the cubase audio track play back travelling from the pc to the MOXF8. WHEn I hear it I sing in tune. However my singing must be delayed compared to the playback in Cubase where the recording also takes place (that is unless the creators made it so that the audio playback sound recorded is later than the sound in the monitors/headphones. The delay of the singing compared to the audio playback in Cubase seems like two times the distance between Moxf8 and Cubase, when being overly intuitive.

Okay, I see you discovered the audio from video extract (excellent).

If you’re monitoring yourself singing live through the DAW LEVEL - this means you’re monitoring the signal *post* (after) it traverses the computer. You would do this, again, when processing the signal with a computer plugin effect that you wish to hear. Otherwise, you would opt to monitor your live signal “direct”. By monitoring direct, the Cubase Advanced Delay compensation will time stamp your audio on the way in, and this time stamping is responsible for making up the Delay that would occur in an overdubbing recording situation.

You should be recording your microphone isolated from your Monitor Speakers, in fact, if they are not in another room they should be powered down. Microphones are not intelligent, they pickup all audio in the environment. If your speakers are audible to you, the microphone certainly is picking them up, thus ruining your overdubbed/recorded vocals. Headphones during vocal recording are required equipment in most home studio recording situations simply due to your control room is often also the studio room.