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Level (Level Velocity Sensitivity) setting info

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Hi, so here is what I would like to be able to do with Motif Waveform Editor and MOXF6: create a Voice with 4 samples (4 stereo WAVs) assigned to each keyboard key of a Voice then set the 4 different velocity ranges for these samples so they can be switched by velocity BUT at the same time I want volume levels of all the samples to stay the same (at full volume) regardless of velocity used to switch the samples.

I think I found the parameter in the MOXF Reference manual ( under Voice Mode, page 44) that does that. It is called: Level (Level Velocity Sensitivity). It says it “Determines the velocity sensitivity of the Amplitude EG Level” with Settings: Level: -64 – +0 – +63.

I think if this setting is set to 0, the velocity doesn’t affect volume level but since I don’t own MOXF6 yet I can’t be sure. Could someone check this for me please? If no one owns Motif Waveform Editor this can still be checked with preset voices that have more than one sample assigned per key.

Thanks a bunch!

 
Posted : 02/10/2016 11:26 pm
Bad Mister
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That is the correct parameter.

 
Posted : 02/10/2016 11:49 pm
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Thank you Bad Mister for a quick response 🙂 So for sure velocity will still work to switch samples? If so, with Normal and Drum Voices? The reason I am so skeptical is because Mr. Melas (the creator of Motif Waveform Editor) told me this:

Quote: "Yes Level Velocity Sensitivity can turn a Voice playing in the same velocity every time you hit a key.
But if your voices uses velocity layers it will always trigger the samples associated with the fixed velocity.
So I do not think what you want is possible! What I would do is I would assign the different samples to different
keys!"

 
Posted : 03/10/2016 12:21 am
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For sure! Each "Waveform" can contain as many as 256 "Samples"... as two mono samples can occupy a "Key Bank" note range/velocity range) to create a Left and Right when doing stereo.

The Velocity Range you set determines if a Sample will sound, there is a separate parameter that determines how that gets interpreted for output level.
Say you set a sample Keybank to respond 1-60, and another 61-90, and another 91-119 and another 120-127. Receiving a MIDI note-on message of 65 would cause the second sample to sound.

How loud or whether or not it responds at full velocity or follows a velocity curve is an entirely separate setting. The Element containing these samples (waveform) can be set to +0 (or no change) Level Velocity Sensitivity, meaning each will sound at the fixed output you set. Which can be maximum.

For sure.

 
Posted : 03/10/2016 3:58 pm
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Bad Mister wrote:

For sure! Each "Waveform" can contain as many as 256 "Samples"... as two mono samples can occupy a "Key Bank" note range/velocity range) to create a Left and Right when doing stereo.

The Velocity Range you set determines if a Sample will sound, there is a separate parameter that determines how that gets interpreted for output level.
Say you set a sample Keybank to respond 1-60, and another 61-90, and another 91-119 and another 120-127. Receiving a MIDI note-on message of 65 would cause the second sample to sound.

How loud or whether or not it responds at full velocity or follows a velocity curve is an entirely separate setting. The Element containing these samples (waveform) can be set to +0 (or no change) Level Velocity Sensitivity, meaning each will sound at the fixed output you set. Which can be maximum.

For sure.

That is great news 🙂 MOXF is definitely the greatest bang for the buck synth right now so will be mine as soon as the funds permit. Thank you Bad Mister again for a prompt and detailed answer 😉

 
Posted : 05/10/2016 2:02 am
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And here also comes the positive response from Mr. Melas himself:
" So absolutely I can confirm that using my Waveform Editor you can produce Waveforms that achieve your goal!!! The only think you need to take care about is to set Velocity sensitivity to zero for all the *Voices* you create.

Hope this helps!

Best regards,
John Melas "

🙂

 
Posted : 10/10/2016 3:38 am
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