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Hi... New to the YC61. I did some research and can't find the answer for this. I am creating a live set containing organ presets with several registrations so that i can change sounds in a similar manner to the reverse keys on the Hammond. Is there a way to disengage the rotary speaker speed from a preset. If i am on 'fast' and change sounds, it goes back to slow and vice versa. This is not how a real hammond works with a mechanical switch for the leslie speed (as you all know). I could make separate presets of the same registration for slow and fast speeds but that ends up being too much to think about when performing...I am aware that i could get a Neo Vent and solve the issue that way but it seems like having it as part of the YC61 OS would be a better option.
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Posted : 01/11/2020 10:52 am
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Peter...not a Yamaha person but unfortunately I'm quite sure this is not something you can currently do...but it is an interesting idea! I have a Nord Electro 4 and you can't do it on that either. I would suggest posting this on IdeaScale so Yamaha's engineering team sees that this might be a desirable feature for a future OS update. I promise I will upvote it! In the meantime maybe a Yamaha person will actually check up on us over here in the YC section and confirm what I am saying. I posted a question on panning effects over a week ago and have not had a response. Jim J (aka Counterpoint on IdeaScale)

 
Posted : 03/11/2020 12:55 am
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Hi... New to the YC61. I did some research and can't find the answer for this. I am creating a live set containing organ presets with several registrations so that i can change sounds in a similar manner to the reverse keys on the Hammond. Is there a way to disengage the rotary speaker speed from a preset.

No. The concept of the YC61 “preset” is to store the YC settings for instant recall... they naturally include the built-in Rotary Speaker model.

The presets on the original instrument did not include any settings for your sound system... the Leslie was quite a separate piece of gear, from a separate company. Any controls you see to control the Leslie speaker were retrofitted on to the instrument. (It was anything but a friendly relationship between the companies... the organ company tried to prevent the speaker company from making the cabinet! It got ugly and lawyers got involved. You can look it up: Google “Hammond organ versus Leslie speaker”).

If you want to do it like “how the real hammond works” you can route the YC61 outputs to a Leslie, or as you said to an external effector... so you can work with them separately. That’s the current situation.

I could make separate presets of the same registration for slow and fast speeds but that ends up being too much to think about when performing...

Playing piano, I can understand when someone wants to keep both hands on the keys (after all, an acoustic piano has no controllers at all to work with your hands, all controls other than the keys are operated via pedals... but playing an organ, the father of the synthesizer, it is all about working the front panel controls. So to an organ player this should not be intimidating. There are tons of controls for your hands (switches, drawbars, multiple manuals), controls for your feet (pedals and even a couple octaves of key pedals). I picture Jimmy Smith, walking a bass line, chording, kicking pedals while soloing, all while operating the Chorale/Tremolo switch retrofitted to his B3... all while performing! You get to *know* where your controls are and you learn to work them into your performing. It’s called organ playing, lol

Not sure how many “presets” you use, but you can try putting your “fast” preset on the top row of Live Set buttons, and the “slow” version on the buttons directly below it.
Learn where you placed them and perform... hope that helps.

 
Posted : 07/11/2020 9:29 pm
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Thanks for all the replies. I still think this would be a good option to be able to program into a preset. Ideascale it is!

 
Posted : 11/11/2020 10:17 am
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I am aware that i could get a Neo Vent and solve the issue that way

Kinda. Since the YC61 does not let you create Live Sets that have the organ panned to one side and your other sounds to the other side, using a Neo Vent means that any sounds you have split/layered with organ will go through the Leslie effect as well. Also, even if only playing one sound at a time (no splits/layers), when you switch away from organ to another sound, you'll have to remember to hit the bypass on the Vent, or your piano or whatever will be going through the rotary effect. This kind of thing bit me years ago... it was a multi-board rig and I'd go to a board and forget that the last sound I used it for was organ, and I'd call up brass and hear it through the Korg G4 rotary pedal I had attached (one of the better sims of its time)... I abandoned the idea.

 
Posted : 07/12/2020 4:57 pm
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