Did this brass sound originate as a preset? If so, what was the name of the Preset?

I would go into the PART(s) "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign" screen, turn on the "Auto Select" button, then spin the mod wheel. I'd look at the destination and change it to something else if it wasn't matching what I wanted.

I can't really translate what you're trying to do - so I can't really guess at what destination you're after.

I'm guessing that James means that he wants the modulation wheel to introduce the common LFO-based vibrato effect, instead of altering the filter cutoff frequency as it appears it is currently set to do on this brass sound.

I'm guessing that James means that he wants the modulation wheel to introduce the common LFO-based vibrato effect, instead of altering the filter cutoff frequency as it appears it is currently set to do on this brass sound.

Exactly Scott!

Did this brass sound originate as a preset? If so, what was the name of the Preset?

I would go into the PART(s) "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign" screen, turn on the "Auto Select" button, then spin the mod wheel. I'd look at the destination and change it to something else if it wasn't matching what I wanted.

I can't really translate what you're trying to do - so I can't really guess at what destination you're after.

Hello, yes... it is the preset called Before 1984. I need the wheel for standard lfo vibrato type modulation. It came from the factory in which the mod wheel must be assigned to a cuttoff filter.

I think it's "After 1984".

Here's what I did:

1) Recalled preset "After 1984"
2) Touched PART 1 (this is a single-PART Performance), then chose "Edit" from the popup menu
3) Selected touchscreen menu "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign" and made sure "Auto Select" was on
4) Moved the mod wheel and noticed two destinations: Resonance and Cutoff. I deleted each of these destinations.
5) Pressed the [+] to add a destination to this Modwheel source. Chose the Part Param -> P.LFO Depth 1
Now destination 1 shows "P.LFO Depth 1"
6) Changed the curve ratio so it is positive: +12. The larger the number the wider the vibrato.
7) Selected touchscreen menu "Mod/Control" -> "Part LFO"
8) Changed speed to 55
9) Touched the 1st destination (destination 1) and changed from the default setting to "Pitch". Did not change anything else - by default the depth is 0 which is fine.

Now when the mod wheel is all the way "down" - there is no pitch modulation. When the mod wheel is all the way "up" - this provides the maximum depth of vibrato. I do not have anything that controls speed. If you want to control speed instead of depth - or both - you need to target (Control Assign screen) the destination to the LFO speed parameter. You can have the same controller target depth and speed simultaneously.

The reason I didn't get what you were trying to do is that modulate, roughly, means to wiggle something. And you would need to specify what "something" is like: modulate pitch, or modulate amplitude (level), or modulate resonance, or ... "Modulate the sound" was not specific enough for me to determine your intended modulation target.

So I found the auto select button and changed the parameter to several different modulations but they did not seem to have any effect when I would turn the wheel. But if I changed the parameter to something like course tune or fine to it would change the pitch. HELP!!

Did you make the ratio positive?
Did you go into the "Mod/Control" -> "Part LFO" screen and change those parameters?
You cannot just change one thing - you need to setup the rest.

You could have any number of problems - but if I were to guess, I'd guess you have a negative ratio. And if you target P.LFO Depth 1 as the destination - then you cannot subtract from zero. Zero is the minimum. Yet, a negative ratio says when you push the modwheel forward - you subtract more and more (if the ratio is negative). The ratio should be positive. I suggested +12. When you look at the triangle on the "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign" screen, it's the 2nd parameter to the right of the triangle. First is polarity (as in uni or bi) then second to the right is "ratio". And I think you hear the pitch because when you set the destination to pitch - pitch is likely offset by "0" normally and has a range of both negative and positive -- so subtracting is valid. When you push the modwheel - I'm guessing you hear the pitch go down. This would further indicate your ratio isn't correct. A positive ratio would make the pitch go up. If you follow those 9 steps given previous, you'll get a vibrato you can control the depth. From zero vibrato to some positive value of depth.

I think it's "After 1984".

Here's what I did:

1) Recalled preset "After 1984"
2) Touched PART 1 (this is a single-PART Performance), then chose "Edit" from the popup menu
3) Selected touchscreen menu "Mod/Control" -> "Control Assign" and made sure "Auto Select" was on
4) Moved the mod wheel and noticed two destinations: Resonance and Cutoff. I deleted each of these destinations.
5) Pressed the [+] to add a destination to this Modwheel source. Chose the Part Param -> P.LFO Depth 1
Now destination 1 shows "P.LFO Depth 1"
6) Changed the curve ratio so it is positive: +12. The larger the number the wider the vibrato.
7) Selected touchscreen menu "Mod/Control" -> "Part LFO"
8) Changed speed to 55
9) Touched the 1st destination (destination 1) and changed from the default setting to "Pitch". Did not change anything else - by default the depth is 0 which is fine.

Now when the mod wheel is all the way "down" - there is no pitch modulation. When the mod wheel is all the way "up" - this provides the maximum depth of vibrato. I do not have anything that controls speed. If you want to control speed instead of depth - or both - you need to target (Control Assign screen) the destination to the LFO speed parameter. You can have the same controller target depth and speed simultaneously.

The reason I didn't get what you were trying to do is that modulate, roughly, means to wiggle something. And you would need to specify what "something" is like: modulate pitch, or modulate amplitude (level), or modulate resonance, or ... "Modulate the sound" was not specific enough for me to determine your intended modulation target.

Hi Jason, thank you so much for taking the time to write this out step by step, I really appreciate that. Yes, I am sorry I meant "After 1984". I will give it a try! Thanks so much... Jim

Just FYI: The “After 1984” title references the title of the Song on the Van Halen record album of the same name... true fans know the song right after title cut “1984” is the classic “Jump!”

Extra Credit:
“Modulation Wheel” is the name of the Control and the Device... cc001. It does not have a fixed function (something that it does by default)... it is very often used for Pitch Modulation Depth (vibrato) but this must be programmed on a case-by-case basis.

It can be used modulate any of the three major building blocks in a Synthesizer... Oscillator, Filter, or Amplitude. This is handled by applying the MW to a “Depth” parameter. For example, when used to apply the Depth of an LFO (Low Frequency Oscillator which applies a steady rate) you can get various musical effects, as follows

Oscillators are responsible for Pitch. Modulating the pitch with a steady rate is called “vibrato” in musical terminology.
Filters are used to remove harmonics. Modulating the Filter with a steady rate is called “wah-wah” in musical terminology.
Amplitude is the manipulation of loudness. Modulating the Amplitude with a steady rate is called “tremolo” in musical terminology.

PMD = Pitch Modulation Depth
FMD = Filter Modulation Depth
AMD = Amplitude Modulation Depth