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Weird behavior when Importing Performance in User Bank

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 Fred
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Hello,

I've met a quite weird issue when importing a Library into User space.
It is an Easy Sounds Library, working perfectly well.
When I try to import it into User Space, I've got the message "No Data". I've been able to identify that one Performance only is the cause of this message. It's impossible to import it.
So I gave a look at this Performance, it is a single part performance with 3 elements. Each element has its own Waveform wich is loaded and audible. I haven't seen a problem with the Performance wich plays perfectly well.
So I don't understand wjhy it is impossible to import it. I must add that all the other performances of this library are well imported.

Do you have any idea of this issue ?

Thank you.

 
Posted : 06/01/2023 5:10 pm
Darryl
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Have you checked to see how much free space you have left in User Memory? Maybe there isn't enough left to import all the Performances to User Memory!? Perhaps that one Performance you identified has the largest waveforms!?
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I experienced an issue a few months back trying to do a 'Library Import' of the "Another One Bites" Performance in 'Narf Favorite Covers Set 5', but I didn't receive any errors. What tipped me off that it wasn't working is that the Performance in that library has 3 custom waveforms, yet when I imported it, it was immediate, as quick as just saving a Performance, which is essentially what it was doing & wasn't importing the waveforms into user memory.

I got Yamaha support to check that Library and they said that the entire Library contained a total of 83 unused waveforms, only 6 six were active in the Performances. Once the 83 unused waveforms were deleted the import seemed to work properly when they tested. I tested the same and that had fixed the issue, which I could tell right away during the import, as it was taking around 7 seconds to complete instead of instantaneously. On follow-up with Yamaha Support they said that the cause was that one of the samples in that original library file was corrupted, and it was one of the samples that wasn’t being used in any of the Performances.

Not sure if that helps, as there were no errors with my issue & the Performance did get saved to User memory...it just pointed back to the waveforms in the library instead of importing the waveforms to user memory and pointing to those ones!

 
Posted : 06/01/2023 7:25 pm
Jason
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If you share the Library name and Performance you see an import with then perhaps others with the same Library can test and compare notes.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 06/01/2023 7:33 pm
 Fred
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Thank you all for your answers.
Indeed, I think that I have an old version of Phat Analog because it seems to match the Peter's issue description.
I have deleted all libraries but this one. So there was far enough space memory. And the issues remained the same.
I have never had any problem with the Easy Sounds sounds banks.
So I will contact Peter to get the right version.
Thanks

 
Posted : 07/01/2023 5:59 pm
 Fred
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Hello,

Of course I could ask Peter for a new version of this library, but I would like to identify the problem. This could increase my knowledge of the Montage.
Thinking of the Peter's caution, I still have a question : if some User Arps are no more available, why these Performance do work well from Library ?
I believed that the Import command copied ALL the Performance Datas in User space ? So normally, it should copy all ARP datas too ? Don't you think ?
Perhaps, there is something I haven't undrestand in the Montage architecture ?

There are two other points :
1) This time (after cleaning user memory) its another Performance which make "No Data" message (and the former one is working well !!
2) Watching each part containing arps, it uses Preset arps only. So there is no reason why it should not load

I'm a bit lost in all this stuff !!

Thanks a lot.

 
Posted : 08/01/2023 9:19 am
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