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Does the YC have MIDI Thru?

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 John
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I do not have a YC61 yet but I am highly considering one. One question I have though is if I connect a keyboard to the MIDI In port, is the YC able to do a MIDI Thru to another keyboard through the MIDI Out port and/or USB Midi port? Would it also be able to select which MIDI channel it is routed to?

If this is all possible can this be set on a per live set basis?

 
Posted : 21/10/2022 7:03 pm
Jason
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There is not a MIDI Thru. The schematic for the YC61 (aka "system overview" diagram in the manual) shows no path from MIDI in to MIDI out.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 22/10/2022 1:43 am
Jason
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The diagram shows a USB TO HOST port. That is not going to be a way to directly connect another keyboard.

The USB TO DEVICE port is not advertised as any way to do this either.

This "USB Port 1" and "USB Port 2" business shows that the USB TO HOST port can communicate with a tablet/computer and that computer communicates over Port-1 to target the tone generator or Port-2 which does send the data unfiltered to the MIDI out port.

Therefore, if you wanted a MIDI Through/Merge type setup then you could add a tablet or PC and connect the MIDI device to it using either 5-pin MIDI or USB connections to the tablet/PC. Then have software route the MIDI messages from this device's MIDI out to target the YC61 Port-2. These "USB Port 1" and "USB Port 2" are not physical connectors but rather independent MIDI busses that are both inside a single USB cable.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 22/10/2022 4:02 am
david
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I needed a MIDI thru on one of my boards that didn't have one (I was chaining 3 together to my YC) so I bought a MIDI "Y" cable instead so now my YC controls (3) other boards and they all have audio inputted into my YC and then XLR mains outs to my sound system. Not sure if that's what you are trying to do but the "Y" MIDI cable simply doubled the MIDI signal so I didn't need the thru option on that particular synth. "Thru" doesn't do anything other than to pass the input "thru" the board and out again. The "Y" cable does the same thing, it's a bypass.

 
Posted : 24/10/2022 4:14 am
Jason
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For an active solution, there's MIDI Solution's Thru box. It's under $50USD new and even less expensive on the used market. There are situations where the passive (y-cable) option won't work. Full disclosure - since the MIDI Thru is bus powered there are situations where a keyboard wouldn't supply the proper power or otherwise has the MIDI port wired in a non-standard way. See https://midisolutions.com/faqs.htm#Power for more details.

You'd hook this up to the output of the keyboard you're currently routing to the MIDI IN of the YC - so that unnamed keyboard/device would be supplying the power over MIDI to the Thru box. Since I can't know what that is - I don't know if it would cause any issue for the Thru box.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 24/10/2022 4:44 am
 matt
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Thru box works like a charm and it's totally inexpensive

 
Posted : 27/10/2022 5:40 pm
david
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That I know of my passive MIDI "Y" has never failed to transmit.

 
Posted : 22/11/2022 5:19 am
Jason
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If any of the three connected devices were incompatible with a passive solution then it'd fail all the time.

Current Yamaha Synthesizers: Montage Classic 7, Motif XF6, S90XS, MO6, EX5R

 
Posted : 22/11/2022 5:58 am
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